Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

KLHJ2 · 10-29-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I liked Armstrong too. Is whats his name Terrance Austin? I agree with you that the wr's need to be adressed still and with your takes on all those guys. I think that the team thought it was a done deal though. I dont really sweat the wr's because regardless of todays cluster **** our offense has been a mild surprise to say the least.

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Yes, that was him.

mooby · 10-29-2012, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wish we could revisit what everyone's expectations were back when camp opened. I thought we were talking like .500 at best?

I was thinking .500, and maayyyyybe a winning record if the defense was solid. We know how that's turning out, but I'm thinking at this point we'll probably be slightly below .500. Best case scenario for me right now is .500, but I think we'll end up 7-9 or 6-10 probably. And I'm ok with that, because that's pretty close to what I envisioned going into the season. The only difference was I thought we would be around .500 because it would take RG3 time to adjust, I didn't envision this defensive collapse. Next year if the offense can keep performing at this level, and the defense becomes solid, we can definitely contend for a playoff spot. I just hope RG3 doesn't have the collapse that Cam is having this year.

mooby · 10-29-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Ok then, let's get into it. The Packers won the frikkin Superbowl with something like a third of the roster on IR or seriously banged up. The Superbowl. Muff said. I already covered the Pats w/ Cassell and we're just hours past a game we lost to team missing as much "starter talent" as we have. Any adult, and lots of kids, who follow the game could work up a list of a dozen really, really banged up teams that went to the playoffs etc.

Mike can't get us above .500 in a season, and we're trending downward, both offensively and defensively, week by week.

And I can't let the Garcon "thing" go either. Unless you expect him to significantly outperfrom his best season (played w/ Peyton Manning for 4 years), he's just not going to make much of a difference. He'll replace Moss in production eventually, but I suspect never top Moss' best two or three seasons.

You are literally the only person who believes our offense is trending downward. I mean seriously. You're the only person who thinks everything the offense does, turnovers, w/e, is the fault of the coordinators for calling the wrong plays. It's f'n asinine.

And the hilarious thing is Garcon had his best season as a pro with Dan Orlovsky and that other scrub they had at qb last year, not with Peyton.

irish · 10-29-2012, 06:35 AM

This team has major injuries on defense and outside of RG3 they really dont have much talent at all on offense. I'm surprised at how good they have looked at times considering how little talent this team has. Shanny can stay cause he isnt the problem.

Chico23231 · 10-29-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I really like everything you have to say - but we spent a high draft pick on Hank and alot of money on Garcon and Morgan. I was definitely under the impression that they thought they had that particular area squared away.

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Hank, imo, has been borderline disappointment. He doesnt play fast enough and when he does he drops it. Robinson and Briscoe have done zilch this year. Garcon injuried all year and Morgan is a decent no. 2. Moss is almost done. I dont think WR is squared away at all, in fact its been a major disappointment. Garcon should just IR at this point.

skinsfan69 · 10-29-2012, 06:59 AM

I get tired of hearing that Garcon is out.WR is the deepest position on the team. Plus we're no talking about Calvin Johnson. The Giants had so many of their players out a few weeks ago and some no name rb and wr's abused Carolina. The good teams can overcome injuries and the bad ones can't.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-29-2012, 07:14 AM

Mike Shanahan is a great coach. While that is true, he hasn't been able to get his Redskins to play on the same level as the Giants, Packers, and Saints. Shanahan claimed at the start that Washington was a rebuilding assignment. But it's not entirely his fault that his record as Redskins HC is very poor. I say give him continue to reshape the roster until the Redskins are completely sound on both sides of the ball. He told Snyder in the beginning that the Redskins weren't going to be winners over night. But they could be winners now if not for the pitiful pass defense. He's the one who hired Raheem Morris so it's his fault that the Redskins are losing.

Bushead · 10-29-2012, 07:34 AM

One bad game by the offense and everyone is talking about how our WRs are all bottom of the barrel? Get real, we have a very legit offense that shot itself in the foot today. The reason we are so upset about them is we are use to getting at least 20 points every game easily. When Garcon comes back, I bet you it becomes even better.

It was clear from watching this game that the offense had to be perfect. The defense didn't even make the Steelers punt until the end of the half! That's not getting a lot of opportunities for more possessions. Then, when you are down points, you can't be balanced. The redskins offense is best when it's balanced so RG doesn't have to throw, throw, throw.

Hall's attitude has been enough for me. He was another Cerrato hail mary and it's time for us to move on.

Hog1 · 10-29-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Jack Del Rio?

Really?

SO Damn...Many.....good names.

Hog1 · 10-29-2012, 08:00 AM

[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;958386]Mike Shanahan is a great coach. While that is true, he hasn't been able to get his Redskins to play on the same level as the Giants, Packers, and Saints. Shanahan claimed at the start that Washington was a rebuilding assignment. But it's not entirely his fault that his record as Redskins HC is very poor. I say give him continue to reshape the roster until the Redskins are completely sound on both sides of the ball. He told Snyder in the beginning that the Redskins weren't going to be winners over night. But they could be winners now if not for the pitiful pass defense. He's the one who hired Raheem Morris so it's his fault that the Redskins are losing.[/QUOTE
He also said it would take 5 years.....

KI Skins Fan · 10-29-2012, 08:10 AM

What about a poll on a more likely scenario? Please put up a poll on whether or not Jim Haslett should be fired. There should be some entertaining comments on that one.

GTripp0012 · 10-29-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry

I do not know about anyone else, but I was under the impression that everyone understood that while we brought in Garcon and Morgan that it would not be the end all to WR woes. Quantity never compensates for quality and I thought it was very apparent that those additions (save Garcon) would more than likely be a band aid until the position could be addressed through the draft or with better FA's. At the same time I do not blame them for our losses, but they did play a big part today.

The rest of the losses are due to a vulnerable defense that has been hampered by injuries and a suspension. Even with how bad the defense is the team is still contending. I think that you may have had unrealistic expectations comming into this season. They might have been realistic if we had our starting safties, Orakpo and Carriker. I am pleasantly supprised that they have done this well. I am sorry that they haven't been good enough for you.

That would have been a ton of money to spend on a band aid.

GTripp0012 · 10-29-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wish we could revisit what everyone's expectations were back when camp opened. I thought we were talking like .500 at best?

I thought .500, maybe 7-9 at worst. They're officially underachieving.

skinsfan69 · 10-29-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What about a poll on a more likely scenario? Please put up a poll on whether or not Jim Haslett should be fired. There should be some entertaining comments on that one.

Haslett should get a pink slip right after the gun goes off of the 16th game. I have no idea how he's coaching in the NFL. If Greg Williams was coaching this defense we would not be this bad. Not saying I want him back or anything, just making a point. One guy can coach, scheme and mix things up. One guy can't and has a confused look on his face.

FRPLG · 10-29-2012, 08:49 AM

Where's the fire Shanny from being in charge of personnel option?

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10-29-2012, 06:35 AM	#259
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,328	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? This team has major injuries on defense and outside of RG3 they really dont have much talent at all on offense. I'm surprised at how good they have looked at times considering how little talent this team has. Shanny can stay cause he isnt the problem.

10-29-2012, 06:59 AM	#261
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? I get tired of hearing that Garcon is out.WR is the deepest position on the team. Plus we're no talking about Calvin Johnson. The Giants had so many of their players out a few weeks ago and some no name rb and wr's abused Carolina. The good teams can overcome injuries and the bad ones can't.

10-29-2012, 07:14 AM	#262
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Mike Shanahan is a great coach. While that is true, he hasn't been able to get his Redskins to play on the same level as the Giants, Packers, and Saints. Shanahan claimed at the start that Washington was a rebuilding assignment. But it's not entirely his fault that his record as Redskins HC is very poor. I say give him continue to reshape the roster until the Redskins are completely sound on both sides of the ball. He told Snyder in the beginning that the Redskins weren't going to be winners over night. But they could be winners now if not for the pitiful pass defense. He's the one who hired Raheem Morris so it's his fault that the Redskins are losing.

10-29-2012, 07:34 AM	#263
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 695	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? One bad game by the offense and everyone is talking about how our WRs are all bottom of the barrel? Get real, we have a very legit offense that shot itself in the foot today. The reason we are so upset about them is we are use to getting at least 20 points every game easily. When Garcon comes back, I bet you it becomes even better. It was clear from watching this game that the offense had to be perfect. The defense didn't even make the Steelers punt until the end of the half! That's not getting a lot of opportunities for more possessions. Then, when you are down points, you can't be balanced. The redskins offense is best when it's balanced so RG doesn't have to throw, throw, throw. Hall's attitude has been enough for me. He was another Cerrato hail mary and it's time for us to move on.

10-29-2012, 08:00 AM	#265
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? [QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;958386]Mike Shanahan is a great coach. While that is true, he hasn't been able to get his Redskins to play on the same level as the Giants, Packers, and Saints. Shanahan claimed at the start that Washington was a rebuilding assignment. But it's not entirely his fault that his record as Redskins HC is very poor. I say give him continue to reshape the roster until the Redskins are completely sound on both sides of the ball. He told Snyder in the beginning that the Redskins weren't going to be winners over night. But they could be winners now if not for the pitiful pass defense. He's the one who hired Raheem Morris so it's his fault that the Redskins are losing.[/QUOTE He also said it would take 5 years..... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

10-29-2012, 08:10 AM	#266
KI Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 1,297	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? What about a poll on a more likely scenario? Please put up a poll on whether or not Jim Haslett should be fired. There should be some entertaining comments on that one. __________________ Santana Moss on RG3's 76-yard TD run: "You're watching a track meet - and he ain't coming in second."

10-29-2012, 08:49 AM	#270
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Where's the fire Shanny from being in charge of personnel option?

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