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Old 10-29-2012, 09:10 AM   #256
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

What about a poll on a more likely scenario? Please put up a poll on whether or not Jim Haslett should be fired. There should be some entertaining comments on that one.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:25 AM   #257
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I do not know about anyone else, but I was under the impression that everyone understood that while we brought in Garcon and Morgan that it would not be the end all to WR woes. Quantity never compensates for quality and I thought it was very apparent that those additions (save Garcon) would more than likely be a band aid until the position could be addressed through the draft or with better FA's. At the same time I do not blame them for our losses, but they did play a big part today.

The rest of the losses are due to a vulnerable defense that has been hampered by injuries and a suspension. Even with how bad the defense is the team is still contending. I think that you may have had unrealistic expectations comming into this season. They might have been realistic if we had our starting safties, Orakpo and Carriker. I am pleasantly supprised that they have done this well. I am sorry that they haven't been good enough for you.
That would have been a ton of money to spend on a band aid.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:27 AM   #258
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I wish we could revisit what everyone's expectations were back when camp opened. I thought we were talking like .500 at best?
I thought .500, maybe 7-9 at worst. They're officially underachieving.
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What about a poll on a more likely scenario? Please put up a poll on whether or not Jim Haslett should be fired. There should be some entertaining comments on that one.
Haslett should get a pink slip right after the gun goes off of the 16th game. I have no idea how he's coaching in the NFL. If Greg Williams was coaching this defense we would not be this bad. Not saying I want him back or anything, just making a point. One guy can coach, scheme and mix things up. One guy can't and has a confused look on his face.
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Where's the fire Shanny from being in charge of personnel option?
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Jack Del Rio?

Really?

Jaguar fans are somewhere laughing their asses off right now.
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

If we beat Carolina, which I expect us to do, we will be 4-5 and pretty much where most (reasonable) people expected us to be at the bye. We were a defensive breakdown away from beating the Giants in their house and were in a dogfight with the unbeaten Falcons. Understanding moral victories are for the JV team, why is this even being seriously discussed this morning? Honestly, Shanahan is the 2nd most secure coach in the division, let's keep it moving.
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If we beat Carolina, which I expect us to do, we will be 4-5 and pretty much where most (reasonable) people expected us to be at the bye. We were a defensive breakdown away from beating the Giants in their house and were in a dogfight with the unbeaten Falcons. Understanding moral victories are for the JV team, why is this even being seriously discussed this morning? Honestly, Shanahan is the 2nd most secure coach in the division, let's keep it moving.
You cannot expect anything as long as we have this piss poor pass D. With RG3, the Skins can beat anyone, but with this D, they can also lose to anyone. And don't say that Orakpo would cure all these issues on D. He's a nice player, but no DeMarcus Ware or Jason Pierre Paul.
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You cannot expect anything as long as we have this piss poor pass D. With RG3, the Skins can beat anyone, but with this D, they can also lose to anyone. And don't say that Orakpo would cure all these issues on D. He's a nice player, but no DeMarcus Ware or Jason Pierre Paul.
Hey I agree with you on Rak, he's good but he's not as special as Ware in his prime or JPP.. I think this entire thread is somewhat ridiculous. As you said, with RG3, we are a threat to beat anyone & with our defense we are in danger of losing to anyone as well. That's who we are right now, so the solution (to some) is to fire the coach and start all over yet again?
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:39 AM   #265
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Haslett should get a pink slip right after the gun goes off of the 16th game. I have no idea how he's coaching in the NFL. If Greg Williams was coaching this defense we would not be this bad. Not saying I want him back or anything, just making a point. One guy can coach, scheme and mix things up. One guy can't and has a confused look on his face.
I totally agree. I was never a fan of the 3-4. Unless you have a beast of a NT like Wilfork who can handle double gap assignments the scheme is a liability when executed by mediocre players. Give JH until the end of the season to pull something together or find another coach who will switch back to a 4-3.

As far as offense is concerned I think a RT is the missing piece of the puzzle. If Davis and Garcon were healthy I could see us putting up 30 points a game easy. MS and KS have put together an amazing offense. Every time I watch a game the analysts always comment on how effective the fakes are at freezing linebackers and allowing RG3 to hit players on cross routes. MS said it would take 5 years. Give him 5 years. At the beginning of the season I thought a 7 - 9 record would be beyond expectations.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:43 AM   #266
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My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

I'm agreeing with this. Our defensive coach seem like middle of the pack guys even if we had good players. If we can identify a coordinator that looks like a better fit and has a better resume, I think we should improve that. Our offense is really starting to hum and the Shanahans have shown that they are able to adapt to get the best out of our rookies.

I always hate to hear a question like "should we fire the coach now or after the season". It reminds me of people that quit a job because they don't like it but don't have anything else lined up. These things need to be done in a responsible way.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:45 AM   #267
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Ive never been a big Mike Shanahan fan, at least since hes been our head coach, but theres no way i would fire him right now.

Griffen has been beyond wildest dream expectations and the last thing i want to do is compromise anything by bringing in a new coaching regime. I think Griffen is so smart, so physically gifted and so skilled that a change wouldnt set him back much, if at all, but its still not a risk i would want to take.

I also dont think Shanahan was ever intended to be the long term answer. I feel like Shanahan is really here to turn this team around with the intent to promote from within after he puts in his 5 or so years. After Tom Coughlin, i think Shanahan is tied with Belichick as being the oldest NFL coach. Once Coughlin and Belichick stop winning theyre not going to look for a new team to start coaching, theyre gonna retire (or maybe take on a Bill Parcels roll). We currently have Kyle, Haslett and Morris all prepping for the day Mike steps aside. Unfortunately besides Morris the thought of Kyle or Haslett taking over scares the shit out of me.

I think Mike has to fire Hasslett, probably this season at the bye. Mike f'd up by switching to the 3-4 at the time he did but unfortunately for Haslett thats just life goes. In the meantime I would really like to see what Morris can do with our defense, especially if hes the shoe-in for d-coordinator next year.
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

If Morris was a good enough candidate to be the next DC then he would be making chicken salad out of the secondary he has to work with. I say he goes too and get some fresh blood on the D side of things.
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You cannot expect anything as long as we have this piss poor pass D. With RG3, the Skins can beat anyone, but with this D, they can also lose to anyone. And don't say that Orakpo would cure all these issues on D. He's a nice player, but no DeMarcus Ware or Jason Pierre Paul.
Absolute truth. We can beat anyone with RG3...we can lose to anyone with this D. Mike would get alot more of my respect if he would admit there needed to be some major changes made with this defense and not allow his son to send the most talented QB this franchise has ever had..who by the way is just coming off a mild concussion...out as a WR where he is fair game to LB's and DB's who are drooling to get a shot at him. WTF man???
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Absolute truth. We can beat anyone with RG3...we can lose to anyone with this D. Mike would get alot more of my respect if he would admit there needed to be some major changes made with this defense and not allow his son to send the most talented QB this franchise has ever had..who by the way is just coming off a mild concussion...out as a WR where he is fair game to LB's and DB's who are drooling to get a shot at him. WTF man???
That was his Superbowl play when the Broncos played the skins and went up 10-0, then Doug Williams took over and the rest is history.
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