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Old 10-30-2012, 04:29 PM   #421
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

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Well you and Goat and GTripp are obviously knuckleheads! How dare you question anything about this organization after years and years of...of...of....nevermind.
There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.
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There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

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There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.
To add to that, don't say Shanahan had the benefit of coaching in the weak AFC and then laud Jeff Fisher his accomplishments in the AFC. Don't say Shanahan was at fault for poor QB play last year and then deny his influence of the strong QB play this year. Don't say we need to get rid of a has been in Mike Shanahan and then suggest we should consider Bill Cowher. And don't say that if you agree with a moderator's opinion you're just a sycophant.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:49 PM   #424
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

I'm consistently patient. I think while the Redskins are headed in the right direction, things could be worse than they are. I'm willing to cut Mike Shanahan some slack. The team he inherited from Jim Zorn is more competitive. If not for drafting RG3, the Redskins would be tied with Carolina at 1-6. If not for the defense taking 1,000 steps back, the Redskins would own a 6-2/5-3 record even with the injuries to Carriker and Orakpo.

The problem isn't Mike Shanahan. If you look at the Giants, they aren't really that much better or worse than the Redskins. They own a 6-2 record because they are a more complete team. Allen and Shanahan aren't through completing the Redskins.
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People are looking at just the W/L, not how competitive the Skins have been this year. We've been out of just one game in eight so far. That's a huge step up even if it's not currently reflected in W/L, which it will be.
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I'm consistently patient. I think while the Redskins are headed in the right direction, things could be worse than they are. I'm willing to cut Mike Shanahan some slack. The team he inherited from Jim Zorn is more competitive. If not for drafting RG3, the Redskins would be tied with Carolina at 1-6. If not for the defense taking 1,000 steps back, the Redskins would own a 6-2/5-3 record even with the injuries to Carriker and Orakpo.

The problem isn't Mike Shanahan. If you look at the Giants, they aren't really that much better or worse than the Redskins. They own a 6-2 record because they are a more complete team. Allen and Shanahan aren't through completing the Redskins.
that's all there is to it.

still want haslett gone, though
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To add to that, don't say Shanahan had the benefit of coaching in the weak AFC and then laud Jeff Fisher his accomplishments in the AFC. Don't say Shanahan was at fault for poor QB play last year and then deny his influence of the strong QB play this year. Don't say we need to get rid of a has been in Mike Shanahan and then suggest we should consider Bill Cowher. And don't say that if you agree with a moderator's opinion you're just a sycophant.
Nah, I never said Cowher or anyone like him. I would like a new guy, preferably someone with a great football mind, up and coming, possibly college or coordinator ranks. I don't think goat or tripp said cowher, but I do believe that Cowher AND Gruden might do better than shanny. Defensive minded coach shoring up the defense, and get a good coordinator to fine tune RG3 and the offense. But the defense needs a looking at. Its true that teams win with porous defenses, but our offense isn't clicking on all cylinders just yet to be able to overcome the travesty that is our current defensive state. We do not have the receivers to accomodate that angle, but I believe we have a nice start with the QB and RB, and even TE if Davis can recover and isn't looking for top 5 TE pay.

Point is, I'm just tired of waiting. Seems like it never takes other teams so damn long to just contend for the division, or even a wildcard spot. I do hope we pull it together, but I do believe that the coaching staff is leaning way too much on Griffins playmaking ability, and not as much on executing a good gameplan that mixes some stuff up. Our success seems much more ad lib than anything, and I don't think that long term that is the answer. RG3 won't be able to sustain that, or cover up for so many other areas for too much longer. Our offensive line is still a concern whether people see it or not, RG3 has been pressured and slammed PLENTY, but he puts points on the board, so it gets overshadowed. Its still an area that needs severe coaching up, or upgrading, or both.
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There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.
Believe me I do understand Joe....wait! Did you just imply something bad about Vinny?
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Nah, I never said Cowher or anyone like him. I would like a new guy, preferably someone with a great football mind, up and coming, possibly college or coordinator ranks. I don't think goat or tripp said cowher, but I do believe that Cowher AND Gruden might do better than shanny. Defensive minded coach shoring up the defense, and get a good coordinator to fine tune RG3 and the offense. But the defense needs a looking at. Its true that teams win with porous defenses, but our offense isn't clicking on all cylinders just yet to be able to overcome the travesty that is our current defensive state. We do not have the receivers to accomodate that angle, but I believe we have a nice start with the QB and RB, and even TE if Davis can recover and isn't looking for top 5 TE pay.

Point is, I'm just tired of waiting. Seems like it never takes other teams so damn long to just contend for the division, or even a wildcard spot. I do hope we pull it together, but I do believe that the coaching staff is leaning way too much on Griffins playmaking ability, and not as much on executing a good gameplan that mixes some stuff up. Our success seems much more ad lib than anything, and I don't think that long term that is the answer. RG3 won't be able to sustain that, or cover up for so many other areas for too much longer. Our offensive line is still a concern whether people see it or not, RG3 has been pressured and slammed PLENTY, but he puts points on the board, so it gets overshadowed. Its still an area that needs severe coaching up, or upgrading, or both.
Didn't we try that? Oh, lets go back and try that again.
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that's all there is to it.

still want haslett gone, though
And I think that's how it's gonna go.
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don't let the liberal media tell you how to think and feel, if you have hate in your heart let it out!

if you don't like mike shanahan, don't mean there's something wrong with you, means there's something wrong with mike shanahan; he's not undefeated!
Seriously. Whether u hate him or love him its because u love the skins. U either dont think he can do it so u want him gone sooner than later. The fastest way to the new track is always to get off the wrong one asap. Or you love him despite his wins and losses because you believe not to give up now and let him finish his job. If its not in the cards though- look out. Two more years further away. Two years of rg-3 wasted by starting over again at that point. I dont know what i think anymore. To call someone on either side foolish is nonsense though. Seems like everyone is more anxious to say i told you so than for the redskins to win. However that happens - with or without MS.


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I guess I'll never understand blaming Mike/Kyle for everything that went wrong with McNabb/Beck/Rex, and then refusing to give any credit for the success of RG3.
He is losing with all of them. Everything else wrong with the team is on Shanny. So is everything thats rite. But at 3-5 there is more wrong than rite. Either way we will kniw in two years.


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lol I think some fans are still ill because Gibbs went all in and gave away our future draft picks.
That was the culture when he came back. He was already in a hole. He just dug alittle further looking for the lombardi trophy someone told Danny about that was buried deep in there.


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I don't get it either.
Nobody cares if we lose know matter how good or bad the qb is? Coaches deserve credit when they win - not when they have a great qb? Shanny got roasted with Mcnabb. Got roasted for rex/beck. Now he has a stud qb and is 3-5 and what? Credit for losing with a great offense? Lol.


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