Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 05:56 PM

Anyhow, I will say this while I don't think it'd be a good idea to fire Mike Shanahan (though like I've said before he's not necessarily the guy I would have hired). I think it'd be an even bigger mistake to get rid of Bruce Allen. So if they insist (though I know they don't) on making some huge move, I sure hope they hold on to Bruce Allen

SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Nobody cares if we lose know matter how good or bad the qb is? Coaches deserve credit when they win - not when they have a great qb? Shanny got roasted with Mcnabb. Got roasted for rex/beck. Now he has a stud qb and is 3-5 and what? Credit for losing with a great offense? Lol.

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Think you missed the point.

JoeRedskin · 10-30-2012, 06:00 PM

Yes. I think Allen has done a great job with what he was given.

GTripp0012 · 10-30-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Nobody cares if we lose know matter how good or bad the qb is? Coaches deserve credit when they win - not when they have a great qb? Shanny got roasted with Mcnabb. Got roasted for rex/beck. Now he has a stud qb and is 3-5 and what? Credit for losing with a great offense? Lol.

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Pretty clear isn't it.

That rg3 was drafted and developed by the shanaclan should not be an excuse for a mediocre at best football team it should be an indictment.

The football team, that is. I give credit where credit is due for rg3. The first rousing success of the shanahan era.

Taking just three years.

GTripp0012 · 10-30-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Yes. I think Allen has done a great job with what he was given.

Great? I'm an Allen fan, but if he's done great, what superlatives are left for Thomas dimitroff or Martin Matthew? Stupendous?

punch it in · 10-30-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.

Not if you measure success in wins and losses JR. Our offense is much better and our defense is much worse. Our record is the same. I dont want to hear about injures they are a part of the game. I dont want to hear about personell or asst coaches because that was Shannys choice. Bottom line is next year or the year after if they arent a playoff team it isnt because fans didnt have faith. Only time is going to tell but looking at the state of the current team as a whole and how it performs as a whole - not an offense- well it is no better than three years ago. It is younger but not better.

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los panda · 10-30-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Great? I'm an Allen fan, but if he's done great, what superlatives are left for Thomas dimitroff or Martin Matthew? Stupendous?

this course is pass/fail

SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 06:09 PM

Allen has completely revitalized the culture at Redskins Park. The organization from top to bottom is in a much better place than it was under Cerrato. And that's largely because of Allen.

I'm going to assume you mean Martin Mayhew. Love the guy but how great is he doing these days?

punch it in · 10-30-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Think you missed the point.

The point was everybody wanted to bash MS for mcnabb and rex/beck. But nobody wants to give him credit for rg-3.
Well if any of those qb's won he would have gotten credit. None of them have won. Atleast not more than they have lost. So i ask again credit for what?

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natesurfn · 10-30-2012, 06:18 PM

Monday morning I voted Shanahan should be fired, turns out it was all emotion. Overall I think he has brought in some good youth and turned over the roster nicely. RG3 is amazing although Shanahan can't get full credit for that, he would have taken Griff or Luck, either would have been good but it was a preety much can't miss situation.

McNabb was a mistake because, although most will disagree with me, I think JC had more to offer and was always just in a bad situation. Don't get me wrong I'm happy that we have the QB we do now, but man my life is going to be cut short 20 years just from being a Skins fan. I say next year we need to be 9-7 minimum or Shanahan is fired.

SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 06:19 PM

Way I read it, people (well at least one person) are saying Rex/Beck were part of a poorly run Mike/Kyle offense yet RG3 is somehow performing in spite of Mike/Kyle offense

los panda · 10-30-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Way I read it, people (well at least one person) are saying Rex/Beck were part of a poorly run Mike/Kyle offense yet RG3 is somehow performing in spite of Mike/Kyle offense

obviously they never saw rex run the 2 minute

53Fan · 10-30-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Probably any team that tried to force him into a more conventional pro offense right off the bat.

Well not to take anything away from Mike, but John Fox was smart enough to change his offense to fit Tebow and go to the playoffs so I don't think we're the only team who would have done the same with RG3. I'm not sure RG3 would have looked bad starting off in a more conventional offense either, he seems to be VERY intelligent but I do like the way they've brought him along. No complaints there.

natesurfn · 10-30-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Way I read it, people (well at least one person) are saying Rex/Beck were part of a poorly run Mike/Kyle offense yet RG3 is somehow performing in spite of Mike/Kyle offense

I wouldn't say inspite or the Shanahans because I think they are drawing up plays that work well with RG3. However, RG3 could probably thrive in almost any offense because of his intelligence and versatility.

natesurfn · 10-30-2012, 06:26 PM

BTW I'm such an eternal optimist that I thought the Rex/Beck project was going to work. I really have no reasons to back it up but coming out of preseason I was thinking its gonna be hard deciding who to start because they're both just so good.

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SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,100	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Anyhow, I will say this while I don't think it'd be a good idea to fire Mike Shanahan (though like I've said before he's not necessarily the guy I would have hired). I think it'd be an even bigger mistake to get rid of Bruce Allen. So if they insist (though I know they don't) on making some huge move, I sure hope they hold on to Bruce Allen __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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10-30-2012, 06:09 PM	#458
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,100	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Allen has completely revitalized the culture at Redskins Park. The organization from top to bottom is in a much better place than it was under Cerrato. And that's largely because of Allen. I'm going to assume you mean Martin Mayhew. Love the guy but how great is he doing these days? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-30-2012, 06:18 PM	#460
natesurfn Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 81	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Monday morning I voted Shanahan should be fired, turns out it was all emotion. Overall I think he has brought in some good youth and turned over the roster nicely. RG3 is amazing although Shanahan can't get full credit for that, he would have taken Griff or Luck, either would have been good but it was a preety much can't miss situation. McNabb was a mistake because, although most will disagree with me, I think JC had more to offer and was always just in a bad situation. Don't get me wrong I'm happy that we have the QB we do now, but man my life is going to be cut short 20 years just from being a Skins fan. I say next year we need to be 9-7 minimum or Shanahan is fired. __________________ Bobby Three Sticks Wilmington, NC

10-30-2012, 06:19 PM	#461
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,100	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Way I read it, people (well at least one person) are saying Rex/Beck were part of a poorly run Mike/Kyle offense yet RG3 is somehow performing in spite of Mike/Kyle offense __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-30-2012, 06:26 PM	#465
natesurfn Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 81	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? BTW I'm such an eternal optimist that I thought the Rex/Beck project was going to work. I really have no reasons to back it up but coming out of preseason I was thinking its gonna be hard deciding who to start because they're both just so good. __________________ Bobby Three Sticks Wilmington, NC

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