Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

punch it in · 10-30-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by natesurfn

Why do we hate Campbell so much?? Sure he did nothing for us, but short of the top 5 elite qb's not one would have back then. Maybe I just like Campbell as a person too much...you could be right.

Two things I hated about Campbell.
One was completely relevant to his game and one has nothing to do with football. Deer in the headlight wide eyes that rivaled Vinny when he was under pressure. Ugghh. Oh and for some reason I hate his mustache. Borderline Hitler like.

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Hog1 · 10-30-2012, 10:51 PM

Then again Rak and Carriker may come back and restore the pass rush. Why do we need a punter? Is he not going to heal from the injury?
Any reason to assume Garcon will not return to normal?
Paulsen has proven to be a nice addition
Any reason to think Fred will not be back?
Depth at Olin may be an issue....then again
That basically leaves D secondary.....

SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Two things I hated about Campbell.
One was completely relevant to his game and one has nothing to do with football. Deer in the headlight wide eyes that rivaled Vinny when he was under pressure. Ugghh. Oh and for some reason I hate his mustache. Borderline Hitler like.

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Um...on that note, how about we table the JC discussion?

SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

The pass rush seems anemic too - even when Rak and Carriker come back it seems it will be lacking in talent and depth. Than there is that punter we need. Plus do you think Moss will be back. Briscoe is gone obviously and we hope Garcon returns to normal. So wr COULD be a slight issue. Davis must come back and Paulsen is sort of solid. Depth at oline unless Gettis and Rib are anything remotely special. Oline depth has not been tested thank God but we dont know what we got there. Throw in the 3-4 secondary spots and im nnot sure im seeing a one year away scenario.

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How is Briscoe gone obviously?

punch it in · 10-30-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How is Briscoe gone obviously?

He cant catch.

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punch it in · 10-30-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Then again Rak and Carriker may come back and restore the pass rush. Why do we need a punter? Is he not going to heal from the injury?
Any reason to assume Garcon will not return to normal?
Paulsen has proven to be a nice addition
Any reason to think Fred will not be back?
Depth at Olin may be an issue....then again
That basically leaves D secondary.....

I didnt think the passrush was strong with them playing. No reason to think that davis, garcon , or aussie wont heal - jus sayin they have too.

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SmootSmack · 10-30-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

He cant catch.

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Yes he can

DynamiteRave · 10-30-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

He cant catch.

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He made some pretty awesome catches during pre-season. Not ready to write off Briscoe yet. Maybe as he plays more he'll get more looks and more opportunities to prove himself. Else he has the Brandon Branks syndrome; great in pre-season, lemon in the regular season.

punch it in · 10-30-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yes he can

He has one reception - four targets - I know one was a bad bad drop - also I am thinking he is not so sure handed in practice or he would be seeing the field more?

edit: just for the record - I thought this guy was gonna be a real steal from Tampa - led them in TD passes last year - only 6 i think, but still led the team. But when he did finally sniff the field he kind of wet the bed.

The Goat · 10-31-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I didnt think the passrush was strong with them playing. No reason to think that davis, garcon , or aussie wont heal - jus sayin they have too.

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You're right man, it wasn't significantly better. We didn't get a whole lot of pressure on Brees, mostly he and the WR weren't on the same page for their opener.

punch it in · 10-31-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

You're right man, it wasn't significantly better. We didn't get a whole lot of pressure on Brees, mostly he and the WR weren't on the same page for their opener.

I meant last year too.

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Deivybaby · 10-31-2012, 02:24 AM

Guys sign shanny for 5 more year he wom two.sb back.in 98-99 and it might be 2012 going 2013 but give him.time HE CAN DO.IT.AGAIN. HE ALWAYS FINDS GOOD.DEFENSES AND GIVES US GOOD SRAFT PICKS AND FREE AGENTS. LOOK AT.MCNABB HERE BEST DAYS EVER.

JoeRedskin · 10-31-2012, 06:06 AM

^^ Brilliant observations. Your comments really add new insight into the discussion and provide a perspective not yet considered. Overall, a strong post.

See? I can do insulting sarcasm also.

That Guy · 10-31-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The season results say otherwise.

because we all know judging a QB by is rookie season is a great idea. peyton manning was 3-13. they should have fired everyone. instead they didn't, went 13-3 and made the playoffs. what insane moronic clueless idiots. If only they had someone like you to show them the way.

JoeRedskin · 10-31-2012, 07:32 AM

Is there anything else to discuss on this? We had the poll and the moronic sycophants overwhelmingly voiced their opinion.

We get it. MS hasn't won a playoff game in forever, the defense sucks and we're not improving. MS hasn't done anything right and all our limited success is attributable entirely to RGIII.

You're points have been made, again ... and again ... and again.

Respectfully, I, and others more insightful than myself, disagree. Mike came in saying it was a five year plan and he needed the entire five years. He inherited a old, talented team with no depth. The players he cut are, for the most part, not in football. The last two years we have built depth and, more significantly, changed the culture of Redskins park. Shanahan has not won but is setting the franchise up to win for the long term and, for the long term, it stunk beyond belief when he took over. He needs to start winning but he doesn't need the playoff this year. Further, this year, he has created/adapted an offense that emphasizes the strengths of RGIII allowing him to succeed in ways he would not have been able to if he had been thrown straight into a "traditional" drop back offense.

I know you (Goat, GTripp, and Devie) will never agree that this warrants additional time, and, frankly - given your arrogance and complete disrespect for the intelligence of those who disagree with you, I don't care. Pat yourselves on the back and tell yourselves how brilliant you are - all seven of you.

This thread is degeneratng redundtant rehashing of the same points. Perhaps it is time to shut it down.

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Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,413	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Then again Rak and Carriker may come back and restore the pass rush. Why do we need a punter? Is he not going to heal from the injury? Any reason to assume Garcon will not return to normal? Paulsen has proven to be a nice addition Any reason to think Fred will not be back? Depth at Olin may be an issue....then again That basically leaves D secondary..... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

10-31-2012, 02:24 AM	#507
Deivybaby Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 125	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Guys sign shanny for 5 more year he wom two.sb back.in 98-99 and it might be 2012 going 2013 but give him.time HE CAN DO.IT.AGAIN. HE ALWAYS FINDS GOOD.DEFENSES AND GIVES US GOOD SRAFT PICKS AND FREE AGENTS. LOOK AT.MCNABB HERE BEST DAYS EVER.

10-31-2012, 06:06 AM	#508
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,221	^^ Brilliant observations. Your comments really add new insight into the discussion and provide a perspective not yet considered. Overall, a strong post. See? I can do insulting sarcasm also. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

10-31-2012, 07:32 AM	#510
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,221	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Is there anything else to discuss on this? We had the poll and the moronic sycophants overwhelmingly voiced their opinion. We get it. MS hasn't won a playoff game in forever, the defense sucks and we're not improving. MS hasn't done anything right and all our limited success is attributable entirely to RGIII. You're points have been made, again ... and again ... and again. Respectfully, I, and others more insightful than myself, disagree. Mike came in saying it was a five year plan and he needed the entire five years. He inherited a old, talented team with no depth. The players he cut are, for the most part, not in football. The last two years we have built depth and, more significantly, changed the culture of Redskins park. Shanahan has not won but is setting the franchise up to win for the long term and, for the long term, it stunk beyond belief when he took over. He needs to start winning but he doesn't need the playoff this year. Further, this year, he has created/adapted an offense that emphasizes the strengths of RGIII allowing him to succeed in ways he would not have been able to if he had been thrown straight into a "traditional" drop back offense. I know you (Goat, GTripp, and Devie) will never agree that this warrants additional time, and, frankly - given your arrogance and complete disrespect for the intelligence of those who disagree with you, I don't care. Pat yourselves on the back and tell yourselves how brilliant you are - all seven of you. This thread is degeneratng redundtant rehashing of the same points. Perhaps it is time to shut it down. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

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