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Old 11-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #571
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

it's a good question.. but i think the team was just BAD .. and they quit because of the caliber of players/ppl that are there
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:14 PM   #572
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For a brief moment it seemed he might consider returning. But don't believe it was ever truly genuine. his situation wasn't as bad as Champ's, but like Champ he was very bitter about things and wanted out.
Why was Champ so bitter? Not like we low balled him. Keep hearing some crap that he got caught cheating on his wife and she refused to stay in the area after the ordeal. True?
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:29 PM   #573
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Why was Champ so bitter? Not like we low balled him. Keep hearing some crap that he got caught cheating on his wife and she refused to stay in the area after the ordeal. True?
That's part of the story.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:30 PM   #574
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Sure, but to your earlier post it wasn't Allen/Shanahan that pissed Los off. That bridge burned long before.

Anyhow, Redskins HC 2016....Raheem Morris. You think I'm joking[/QUOTE]

Oh...ok. Well ....If all else fails...Blame it on Vinny!

More like I hope you're joking! You keep bringing up Morris. His team 100% quit on him last year. Why is he held in such high regard? He's never even been a coordinator in the NFL.
Don't believe in second chances for coaches?
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #575
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That's part of the story.
wasnt the key to the story, who got cheatin with?
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:40 PM   #576
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Sure, but to your earlier post it wasn't Allen/Shanahan that pissed Los off. That bridge burned long before.

Anyhow, Redskins HC 2016....Raheem Morris. You think I'm joking
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wasnt the key to the story, who got cheatin with?
That's another part of it
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That's another part of it
Some reporter right?


...but why would he be bitter to the Redskins though? What exactly did the Skins do to him beyond the franchise tag?
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:49 PM   #579
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That was allegedly one person in this whole mess
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:14 PM   #580
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So Champs wife tells him he has to get out of Washington or else she will leave him, then leaves him a year or two after he got to Denver.

Doesnt sound like leaving Washington helped him much when it comes to his marriage.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:23 PM   #581
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The full story is more explosive. Affairs, pregnancies, threatened lawsuits, and an owner who said "what the **** Champ?! Don't drag me into this mess" (and rightfully so)

Ask Matty
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sounds like a good novela
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So tired of the Vinny argument. MS and Bruce have to be held accountable for trading away picks for McNabb, for trading away picks for Brown, changing the defense and low balling Rogers. Atogwe couldn't play anymore so it didn't matter if he left and they didn't want to mess around with LL cause of his injury. Then you bring in band aids..one has a drug problem and can't play. Then you over pay Morgan and he's not playing up to his pay check. IMO he gets one more year but he needs to make the playoffs next year. 4 years in a row of no post season play at 7 mil per year???? Who keeps their job in the NFL with that record??? NO ONE.
Indeed. Three years is enough time to turn things around where it matters - winning - if you have a real plan and know what your doing. Three years is a lifetime in the NFL. The league is structured to promote parity, through the draft, salary cap, FA etc. A five year contract for a coach is still fine, but if he can't improve the record in year three it's just wishful thinking year 4 or 5 will be better.

The other thing is, this regime has made as many really bad FA moves as the last. McNabb, Brown, a litany of defensive players that aren't making an impact. I like the way GTripp said it, Gibbs turned it around by year 2 with smart FA moves and solid coaching. Mike's had three years and we're NO CLOSER TO BEING A COMPETITIVE TEAM than when he took over, period.
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Indeed. Three years is enough time to turn things around where it matters - winning - if you have a real plan and know what your doing. Three years is a lifetime in the NFL. The league is structured to promote parity, through the draft, salary cap, FA etc. A five year contract for a coach is still fine, but if he can't improve the record in year three it's just wishful thinking year 4 or 5 will be better.

The other thing is, this regime has made as many really bad FA moves as the last. McNabb, Brown, a litany of defensive players that aren't making an impact. I like the way GTripp said it, Gibbs turned it around by year 2 with smart FA moves and solid coaching. Mike's had three years and we're NO CLOSER TO BEING A COMPETITIVE TEAM than when he took over, period.
I was struck by the matter of fact manner you use. I must ask, to make your statement carry any weight or validity....what exactly is your experience on subject matters such as this? What is your level of expertise in NFL matter?

If you
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I was struck by the matter of fact manner you use. I must ask, to make your statement carry any weight or validity....what exactly is your experience on subject matters such as this? What is your level of expertise in NFL matter?

If you
Too many examples to list of coaches that turn a broken franchise around and achieve a winning record and/or even the playoffs. But top of my mind: Lions, Niners, Bengals, and of course Redskins in Gibbs II.

So I guess observation is my answer. Three years is a long time in any sport, but the way NFL promotes parity through it's structure (think about how baseball doesn't have a salary cap) I think you see it here the most.
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