Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

Ok so who would you like them to hire?

Beyond the scope of this thread. I would have liked them to hire Jim Schwartz, for the record.

GridIron26 · 10-28-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

What we saw today is not fixable in two years. Especially with the cap hit and no first round picks. Shanny shouldnt be fired today if that is the question because who the hell is going to take over now? If we go 6-10 this year (which is seeming like a challenge at this point) than i think it is worth serious consideration. I mean his overall record for the last ten years and complete lack of post season appearances are going to warrant the thought for sure.

I don't know about that. We have good pieces in offense and defense (front 7), the only thing we really need to fix is secondary. Don't forget, we lost few key players to injuries on both sides. As for Shanny, I have to agree with you that his record doesn't show much. But from what I am seeing from Redskins team, compared to last few years before Shanny era, the team is better now.

The Goat · 10-28-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

You mention the locker room, which makes me wonder...

How do you all think locker room morale is?

With RG3 back there, I think the locker room might be good. Without him, I think chaos.

I'm not saying that the guys are throwing fists back there, but I can't imagine that it's not downright dreary back there some Sundays.

I think you probably nailed it.

The Goat · 10-28-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Devil's advocate on the "fire Haslett" quick fix:

That's pretty much what happened towards the end of his days in Denver, right? Every year, some defensive coordinator took the fall. One year, the figurehead GM (Sundquist) took the fall. Eventually, Pat Bowlen had to step in.

Right, so just take care of the real problem up front, and start your search for a new HC tomorrow, right?

punch it in · 10-28-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

Ok so who would you like them to hire?

I dont know but if my shirt doesnt fit and i cant get my hands on another one it doesnt mean i have to feel good in that shirt.

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skinsfan69 · 10-28-2012, 05:30 PM

No. MS should not be fired during the season or after it. He gets 5 years.

NC_Skins · 10-28-2012, 05:31 PM

Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer.

New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN

Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either.

GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

I reserve the right to change this opinion after 8 more games, but at this point, bringing Shanahan back for 2013 would be way more inexcusable than bringing Zorn back for 2009 was. And could result in a season that would be even more of a disaster.

GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer.

New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN

Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either.

Difference being the Rams don't have the money to pay Fisher and another coach, but we do, and that should be a deciding factor in who coaches each team next year.

punch it in · 10-28-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

I don't know about that. We have good pieces in offense and defense (front 7), the only thing we really need to fix is secondary. Don't forget, we lost few key players to injuries on both sides. As for Shanny, I have to agree with you that his record doesn't show much. But from what I am seeing from Redskins team, compared to last few years before Shanny era, the team is better now.

Injuries are league wide. We need depth. Depth across the board plus a secondary. Plus even with a healthy Garcon maybe some wide recievers after what I saw today. Plus a damn punter.
Not just a secondary. I thought that just last week. I did. Now i think this.

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NC_Skins · 10-28-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

That's pretty much what happened towards the end of his days in Denver, right? Every year, some defensive coordinator took the fall. One year, the figurehead GM (Sundquist) took the fall. Eventually, Pat Bowlen had to step in.

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Right, so just take care of the real problem up front, and start your search for a new HC tomorrow, right?

...and how has that worked out for Denver so far?

Cliffnotes: It hasn't.

GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Right, so just take care of the real problem up front, and start your search for a new HC tomorrow, right?

I think firing him tomorrow or even at the bye would be really reactionary and counterproductive. You want to at least see if the team has the character to rebound from a big loss.

But taking a look around at other names would be prudent at this point. You don't want to be caught with your pants down after the season.

DynamiteRave · 10-28-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No. MS should not be fired during the season or after it. He gets 5 years.

5 years I think is good. I'm just not crazy about firing him after 3 years, especially with a franchise that was recently in shambles.

That said, I don't mind taking a very close look at the defensive coordinator position.

punch it in · 10-28-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

...and how has that worked out for Denver so far?

Cliffnotes: It hasn't.

They were a playoff team last year and lookin like one this year.

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The Goat · 10-28-2012, 05:37 PM

Given the way Shanahan is dragging this team through the mud, at what point does the fan face the question: Am I a Skins fan or a Shanahan fan?

Right now, with enough kool-aid or scotch, you can be both. Some of us choose to stick to water on Sundays. But eventually we'll all have to choose, just as Denver did.

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10-28-2012, 05:30 PM	#51
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,103	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? No. MS should not be fired during the season or after it. He gets 5 years.

10-28-2012, 05:31 PM	#52
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,268	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer. New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

10-28-2012, 05:37 PM	#60
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,020	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Given the way Shanahan is dragging this team through the mud, at what point does the fan face the question: Am I a Skins fan or a Shanahan fan? Right now, with enough kool-aid or scotch, you can be both. Some of us choose to stick to water on Sundays. But eventually we'll all have to choose, just as Denver did. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

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