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Old 11-03-2012, 11:35 AM   #616
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

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Well in 2011, on average about 46% of an opponent's offensive plays were running plays. In 2012 it's around 36%.

In our 2011 losses, it was around 50%. 2012-41%

That tells just part of the story though because you'd probably need a quarter by quarter breakdown to get a stronger sense of just how passive/aggressive the opposing team's offense was
Wait, statistics, facts and analysis. How could that be? I thought we were just going to accept that it was:

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Completely fabricated. No basis in reality.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:18 PM   #617
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Are you high? I said they beat us and yet you sit there and say my memory is foggy?....lol WoW. This conversation is brutal and pretty useless to be honest with you. Listen one more time. You claimed the Lions were the worst in football. I pointed out it was basically that same team that beat us. We ended their losing streak. So if they were the worst and beat us, what the **** does that make us? It makes even worse than the worst.


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He was NOT 10-6 his second year. I posted the record of JS's tenure in Detroit and yet you still ****ed it up?... /facepalm
I dont care that they beat us. Its about detroit making a turnaround. To go from 0-16 to the playoffs a couple years later is a friggin turnaround no matter how you dance around it. Jeez.

Edit: there is a marked improvement for three years witj JS in Detroit. Also alot of it was without Stafford but Culpepoer etc at qb. How in the hell are you gonna sit there and say he did not turn the detroit lions franchise around How stubborn. My God. If i could facepalm on my iphone it would be inserted several times here.
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Well in 2011, on average about 46% of an opponent's offensive plays were running plays. In 2012 it's around 36%.

In our 2011 losses, it was around 50%. 2012-41%

That tells just part of the story though because you'd probably need a quarter by quarter breakdown to get a stronger sense of just how passive/aggressive the opposing team's offense was
SS do you agree with the fact that the aggressive play calling could have something to do with the fact that my dog could pass for 300 yards against this current secondary and not so much to do with the fact that teams only try to score 13 points against teams with Rex at qb. That is one of thee most ridiculous arguments i have ever heard in my entire life.


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Old 11-03-2012, 01:30 PM   #619
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

I think if you believe the opponent is incapable of scoring quickly and in bunches you may have a different offensive gameplan than you might if you think they are capable.
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That is one of thee most ridiculous arguments i have ever heard in my entire
Really? I think it seems pretty rational to me that a team's aggressiveness is tied to how many points their opponents have scored or are capable of scoring.
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Put it another way how many times previously did we have a 21 to 3 or 21 to 6 lead where the team needed to try and pass and score in order to beat us? Or how many times after a team took the lead did our offense regain the lead? Compare that with this year and our ability 2 compete in every game.
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This thread has gone on too long. Mods can we please close this?
Well, like I said before, we would but some would accuse of us shutting down opposing thought (even though, contrary to belief, not all the mods agree with each other amongst ourselves).

I keep trying to just let this thread die..but it's like a phoenix
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Really? I think it seems pretty rational to me that a team's aggressiveness is tied to how many points their opponents have scored or are capable of scoring.
Maybe in the fourth quarter when the game is in the bag but i cant believe anybody and Again you are gameplanning your offense to go run or pass for the most part. Who in their rite mind isnt going to pass against us no matter who our qb is.
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This thread has gone on too long. Mods can we please close this?
Why? So it funnels all the shanny bashing into one place.


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Really? I think it seems pretty rational to me that a team's aggressiveness is tied to how many points their opponents have scored or are capable of scoring.
4 of the last 7 games we played last year teams scored 30 or more points against us. Dallas put up 27. That was after our inept offense already played and showed we were incapable of putting up points. Hmmmm.


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4 of the last 7 games we played last year teams scored 30 or more points against us. Dallas put up 27. That was after our inept offense already played and showed we were incapable of putting up points. Hmmmm.


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How would you define aggressive/attacking playcalling? And do you think this year's defense is worse than last year's?
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Well passing is usually a sign of aggressive attacking playcalling - though with our d i think that is just the "easy" way. I mean wouldnt you pass on us? Yes i think this years d is the worst i ever remember.


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4 of the last 7 games we played last year teams scored 30 or more points against us. Dallas put up 27. That was after our inept offense already played and showed we were incapable of putting up points. Hmmmm.


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Yeah, but our opponents were really, really conservative in those games. They didn't want to score 30+ points, it just happened!!

Just as Mike isn't a serious HC coach (anymore, just to give him the benefit of the doubt), his defenders lose the ability to make serious points.

10-6 record with a playoff appearance really isn't better than 5-11 record at the bottom of the division.

Teams didn't play hard against the Redskins until Mike wanted them to.

Give me a f*cking break. Some of you are embarrassing yourselves.
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Yeah, but our opponents were really, really conservative in those games. They didn't want to score 30+ points, it just happened!!

Just as Mike isn't a serious HC coach (anymore, just to give him the benefit of the doubt), his defenders lose the ability to make serious points.

10-6 record with a playoff appearance really isn't better than 5-11 record at the bottom of the division.

Teams didn't play hard against the Redskins until Mike wanted them to.

Give me a f*cking break. Some of you are embarrassing yourselves.
You know i usually try to remain neutral but wtf? The saints went 0-16 and than three years later were in the playoffs - and i am being told that is not a turnaround. Wow.
Teams were conservative playcalling last year against us. RG-3 and alfred morris are in essence the reason our defense sucks this year - that is some awesome logic. Just awesome.
Its like when one of my kids lies. I call them out so they make an excuse/ lie to cover up the first lie and it just snowballs until they dont know up from down. That is truely how i feel about arguing these two points.


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As irate as i am getting about the prior posts i just want to say thank God. Its taking my mind off what the hell is going on around me and the fact that in am nomAdic. So agree or disagree but thank you WP and all u guys for the outlet. Tomorrow i will be at a house that has power and cold beer and the Skins are on TV. Hope we conservatively win 72-0.


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