Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Evilgrin · 10-28-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

No but he drafted him.

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Lol, do you wanna go there with who else he has drafted?

punch it in · 10-28-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Love how we lose our first game of the season in which we played bad from start to finish and we're seriously debating whether to replace Mike Shanahan. Really? It's hard to believe guys like Goat are actually gaining ground here. I guess it really is the coaches' fault our receivers dropped an assload of passes today. I know! Next time let's just stop throwing the ball, that way we can avoid dropped passes completely!

The one constant this team has had this year is our bad defense. Obviously we know it needs more talent on it, and I think everybody is in agreement Haslett is done after the season, but do people really believe any changes we make mid-season will make a huge difference? How well did Sherman Lewis work out for us? Any recent mid-season pickups made a huge difference down the stretch for any team in the NFL? Damn people. This is the bed we've made. Now we just have to sleep in it.

I happen to agree with the mid season crap but nobody wants to admit that the receivers that cant catch and the D that absolutely stinks is on Shanny. - he drafted and architected this team? I mean I really started to buy into the - we need a couple good secondary players and we are gonna be world beaters but the bottom line is we need
WR's - moss is gone , morgan is ehh , Robinson and Hank are totally up in the air and Garcon is hurt and who knows with that injury?
RT and O- line depth -
Defensive depth across the board
Punter
That is alot of needs still before we can play with the big boys.
Im not sure with the cap hit and lack of first round picks that is going to be possible over a two year period?

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GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Love how we lose our first game of the season in which we played bad from start to finish and we're seriously debating whether to replace Mike Shanahan. Really? It's hard to believe guys like Goat are actually gaining ground here. I guess it really is the coaches' fault our receivers dropped an assload of passes today. I know! Next time let's just stop throwing the ball, that way we can avoid dropped passes completely!

The one constant this team has had this year is our bad defense. Obviously we know it needs more talent on it, and I think everybody is in agreement Haslett is done after the season, but do people really believe any changes we make mid-season will make a huge difference? How well did Sherman Lewis work out for us? Any recent mid-season pickups made a huge difference down the stretch for any team in the NFL? Damn people. This is the bed we've made. Now we just have to sleep in it.

You could look at it like we should have been 7-0 heading into a week where we didn't show up, but our 3-5 record this year is completely in line with past years. It is what it is at this point.

The only reason for the thread today instead of last week is we're at the middle of the season now. The question would have been valid at any point. Which is why I said in the OP that I expect things to swing significantly in Shannys favor the further we get from today's game. I think that's natural.

kct1975 · 10-28-2012, 06:43 PM

My two cents....

Do not fire Mike Shanahan! If you do, you will turn RGIII into another Jason Campbell....too many changes of coaches. Plus....I still think Shanahan is a good coach.

I do agree that Hasslett does have to go though.

KCT - "No Matter Where You Go, There You Are!"

mooby · 10-28-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Gibbs doesn't count, cuz he's Gibbs. No one would dream of firing him. :P Although I remember people calling for his head too.

No my point was you said no coach since Norval has lasted more than 3 years, which Gibbs did. It wasn't so much about whether he deserved to be fired. I remember fans calling for Gibbs' head too, saying he was out-of-touch, etc. I definitely didn't want Gibbs to leave either.

punch it in · 10-28-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Lol, do you wanna go there with who else he has drafted?

RG-3 - gee that was a tough call - nobody thought he was gonna be any good - really went out on a limb there

A- mo - great great pick.

TW - check

Kerrigan- check

Starting to run thin now. Probably firgetting a couple good ones but the bad picks outweigh them - so yeah im goin there.

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GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 06:45 PM

There is plenty of room to criticize underachieving players after today. This thread could have easily been "should DeAngelo Hall still be employed by the Redskins", but in the big picture, that's irrelevant. Hall will be playing in the NFL for someone next year. That team will not be winning.

Shanahan may very well be on television next year.

GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

No my point was you said no coach since Norval has lasted more than 3 years, which Gibbs did. It wasn't so much about whether he deserved to be fired. I remember fans calling for Gibbs' head too, saying he was out-of-touch, etc. I definitely didn't want Gibbs to leave either.

Gibbs 2.0 won within his first two years of coming back. He had already justified his re-hire heading into year three.

kct1975 · 10-28-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There is plenty of room to criticize underachieving players after today. This thread could have easily been "should DeAngelo Hall still be employed by the Redskins", but in the big picture, that's irrelevant. Hall will be playing in the NFL for someone next year. That team will not be winning.

Shanahan may very well be on television next year.

I completely agree that D Hall should go. He has become more of a liability than an asset.

D Hall needs to go. Honesty, I do not see the Sinks getting rid of him this year, but I also do not see D Hall being on the team next year.

If the Skins can find a replacmemt for D Hall this season, I am all for it.

With all of D Hall's experience in the NFL, he should know better than to get in the face of a ref.

That Guy · 10-28-2012, 06:53 PM

today's loss was almost 100% on dropped balls and bad defense. the WRs haven't had that problem before, so that's really kind of odd, but the bad D was a known problem that does go against the personal decisions that allowed these players to see the field.

53Fan · 10-28-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Association brings assimilation. If he keeps hammering home the "it's the coaches fault" idea, people will start believing it.

I think sometimes it is the coaches fault (Zero blitz, leaving D. Hall on an island will always linger in my memory) but I think today was on the shoulders of the players, sloppy play, sloppy execution, non-existent defense but coupled with weird desperation plays (RG3 as a WR. Paulsen on a TE screen).

This whole thing was a collective loss. F's all around.

Absolutely. The coaches didn't drop 10 passes...but the whole team looked flat and the coaches do hold some responsibity for that. This was a total team loss. And I haven't said much about Haslett..in fact I've talked more about our injuries...but good lord this guy is NOT DC material. At least not in the 3-4.

los panda · 10-28-2012, 06:54 PM

worst of our future

Evilgrin · 10-28-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

RG-3 - gee that was a tough call - nobody thought he was gonna be any good - really went out on a limb there

A- mo - great great pick.

TW - check

Kerrigan- check

Starting to run thin now. Probably firgetting a couple good ones but the bad picks outweigh them - so yeah im goin there.

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2010 draft was missing a lot of picks and they got a couple good players. Last year was Kerrigan, Helu, royster, hank, and we will see how Jenkins turns out. This year was pretty good of course. Go back to drafts before he arrived, there is literally nothing except Rak.

Mattyk · 10-28-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Then I'm a moron because I give him give full years.

Sign me up for the moron parade too

Bushead · 10-28-2012, 07:01 PM

I think Shanahan should have until the end of next year before these questions start happening.

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10-28-2012, 06:43 PM	#109
kct1975 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 356	My two cents.... Do not fire Mike Shanahan! If you do, you will turn RGIII into another Jason Campbell....too many changes of coaches. Plus....I still think Shanahan is a good coach. I do agree that Hasslett does have to go though. KCT - "No Matter Where You Go, There You Are!" __________________ KCT - "No Matter Where You Go, There You Are!"

10-28-2012, 06:45 PM	#112
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? There is plenty of room to criticize underachieving players after today. This thread could have easily been "should DeAngelo Hall still be employed by the Redskins", but in the big picture, that's irrelevant. Hall will be playing in the NFL for someone next year. That team will not be winning. Shanahan may very well be on television next year. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

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That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? today's loss was almost 100% on dropped balls and bad defense. the WRs haven't had that problem before, so that's really kind of odd, but the bad D was a known problem that does go against the personal decisions that allowed these players to see the field. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

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