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Yes - fire him now 11 6.51%
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:11 AM   #1201
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You have someone to take his place? Bring in 3-4 more O-line to change the scheme with, and so fourth? Let's here it.
I think this argument is the weakest, yet its one people keep repeating. Keeping a bad coach just for continuity's sake will only set the team back farther than it already is, especially with the uber questionable moves Mike has made, ( and could still make) and not worked out.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:18 AM   #1202
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Pains me to say it, but Tripp probably had a good point earlier in this thread. Either you move on from Shanahan now or you commit to him for more than the two years he's got remaining (and perhaps Kyle as well)

Because what's the point then of Mike publicly stating it's a 3 year process for Griff when he'll only be here 2 more years himself?[/QUOTE]

Did he say that? That just sounds like a coach trying to buy himself more time to me
Everything Mike Shanahan has said here, no matter what it is, seems to be the wrong frikkin thing. The Haynesworth situation (not that the wrong move was made, just that the way it was handled left A TON to be desired), the mcnabb conditioning crap, the way he manages clock during the game (even worse than gibbs, never thought Id ever say that, the way he is handling adversity this year.........this guy is an egomaniac, it seems the players know it, and aren't too impressed with the product and squad that he himself has created.

Its a shame its going to take 2 years away from RG3 with this regime for everyone to understand Mike Shanahan is an old has been coach who hasn't won squat in 14 years after Elway. It sucks to be a Redskin fan right now, and it sucks even more knowing you might have one of the most talented kids ever to play QB wasting time with an old has been coach and his son.

The only real optimism the skins and their fans have is knowing that RG3 is here, and will always be here. I'm just looking forward to the day in which he can start digging the franchise out of this mess. Right now, as it seems, the hole is getting deeper. Watch the eagles come out and spank us like red headed step children. I have a bad feeling we might not even get to 6 wins this year.

For a team to not be able to match the win total they had the year prior with John Beck and Rex Grossman, having one of the top talents at QB on your team, that tells me this team is NOT moving forward, and RG3's and ALmo's efforts are just enough to keep this team from really dropping off the cliff.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:39 AM   #1203
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Unfortunately no because Shanahan had to play with fire and get a huge cap hit. That's why next season will be no different than this year. AKA. Can his ass now. Get someone in here to put their scheme together, and go from there.
Don't blame Shanny for Vinny's mess. He was only cleaning up his garbage. Had he not done what he did, our cap would have been ****ed.


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Old 11-11-2012, 09:42 AM   #1204
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edit: retracted. Smoot found the quote and link below.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:52 AM   #1205
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Here's what I'm referring to

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What we've done over time is develop to where we're only doing things Robert is comfortable with," Shanahan said. "He's a rookie. You have to do that. So we put the offense in over the first two weeks of OTAs, and the first two weeks of camp, and we saw what he was comfortable with. Over a time frame of about three years, we'll put everything in, and he'll really be able to branch out. But initially, we're gonna do what he does well."
Robert Griffin III, Mike Shanahan cook up ever-evolving offense - NFL.com (Oct. 9, 2012)
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:54 AM   #1206
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He has full control doesn't he? Then yes, he's the reason. He has the final say and didn't stop anyone. Whether there's collusion involved or something more, the truth of the matter is, something was said and only us and a few others decided to test things.

Bowen and Cofield are two players who have no business being in the 3-4 IMO. I'm not even sure that they belong as backups. Ryan Kerrigan for the most part hasn't been all that impressive, nor has Jenkins who some argued could be a starter.

In the past 20 years, the Washington Redskins have been worse than 6-10 (Shanahan's best record) six times (one of which has happened under Shanahan, 5-11). Shanahan, if he's lucky, will end up 4-12 which will be one win better than the worst of 3-13, but that's not to say Shanahan can't go 3-13 this season.

I'll give him the first two years as they were the major parts of a rebuild, but for a man who claimed QB was really the last major missing piece, that sure has changed drastically. Yes injuries don't help, but you build with quality depth, something the Redskins lack in all compartments.

Hopefully the rookies can come through, but let's be honest, they need time to groom, they can't be thrown into the mix day one and expect to perform.

Not to mention using your teams strengths. Seems like they still fail to realize they need the offense to score in order to win. This is an offense who even without Garcon and Davis can put up at least 30+, yet the play calling keeps holding them back.

Should we be 6-3, I don't know, but we shouldn't be worse than teams like Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Indianapolis who are in their first and second year of rebuilds, meanwhile we should be just about finished with ours.
Bowen played in a 3-4 in Dallas before coming here. C'mon man.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:55 AM   #1207
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That's crazy talk. While I think you shouldn't necessarily overwhelm them, he should be going at RGIII's pace. If he's absorbing it, then give him more. No sense of putting on cuffs if it's not needed.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:59 AM   #1208
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Bowen and Cofield are two players who have no business being in the 3-4 IMO. I'm not even sure that they belong as backups. Ryan Kerrigan for the most part hasn't been all that impressive, nor has Jenkins who some argued could be a starter.

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Bowen played in a 3-4 in Dallas before coming here. C'mon man.
Thank you Matty for point out his error. Bowen has played well for us. Cofield is definitely out of place, but still doing a hell of a job allowing LBs to make the tackles.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #1209
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Bowen played in a 3-4 in Dallas before coming here. C'mon man.
He was not a starter during his tenure there, and if he was, I believe it was because he was a depth guy.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:27 AM   #1210
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He was not a starter during his tenure there, and if he was, I believe it was because he was a depth guy.
He was in the process of taking Marcus Spears job because he was playing better than he was. The only reason the Cowboys didn't resign him is due to salary cap issues.
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Don't blame Shanny for Vinny's mess. He was only cleaning up his garbage. Had he not done what he did, our cap would have been ****ed.
You do see the logical flaw in arguing that Shanahan/Allen acted in 2010 the way they did because they had no choice, and then not holding them accountable for the cap penalty, right?

Even if you believe that the NFL jumped its authority with the cap penalty, as I do, you still can't put it on anyone but the current regime. This could/would have been a past issue in 2010 if left to organic means.

Vinny's influence on the 2011 Redskins was less than 1/2 a percent. At this point, he's a completely negligible character in the teams current situation.
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Wade Phillips doesn't really run a three four. He runs something much closer to a 4-3 where the linebackers (instead of the DEs) have rush/contain responsibility.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:52 AM   #1213
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They aren't a straight 3-4 in Dallas lol. They're hybrid, and the Cowboys even laughed about re-signing him because they said he wasn't worth the money we gave him....looks like they were right.
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Bowen is one of our more solid starters, really not sure why he's being called out.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:06 PM   #1215
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Bowen is one of our more solid starters, really not sure why he's being called out.
He's been our best front 7 player. If anything call out kerrigan he's been invisible
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