Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Ruhskins · 11-12-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

You would think when fans start saying "Fire Shanahan" or "We're done" or "Start looking towards next year" that they would do what I do and literally look ahead to the future by looking at free agency or draft, but apparently not....yet...

Not that I am defending the people that are posting here (or what is being posted here), but free agency/draft discussions are pointless and too early at this point.

InsaneBoost · 11-12-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. Good one man.

rbanerjee23 · 11-12-2012, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

When I watched the game last night I wasn't wondering why the Skins aren't 6-3 too.

Don't let me ruin the fun, maybe I'm the crazy one.

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

SmootSmack · 11-12-2012, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

So you had a random thought from around the NFL...and decided to ignore that we have a weekly around the NFL thread and post it there?

Mattyk · 11-12-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

I wasn't talking to you directly, it was just a general thought more than anything.

Don't take it so personal.

Mechanix544 · 11-12-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Did anyone catch fox Sunday pregame? Heard Jimmy and Howie were saying Mike and co. Are holding griff back.

hmmmmm, I wonder if they fit into the category of announcers/analysts that don't know what they are talking about, or ones that do. I guess it depends on the situation. A layperson could see the coaching on our team this year is holding the franchise back, not just RG3.

Mechanix544 · 11-12-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by redskin29633

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

I draw several conclusions from this story. The first is that RGIII notwitstanding, Shanahan is NOT a shrewd evaluator of football talent. Secondly, the Redskins could probably be 3-6 with a combination of Cousins & Grossman at QB; Shanahan has NOT wisely selected the players (and coaches) that are attempting to complement RGIII's skills, thus the on-field results are less than stellar even with Griffin running the offense. Third, I would say that even if there is but a shred of truth to the story, Shanahan has vastly underrated the Redskins' lack of talent and thus erred strategically in trading away such valuable draft picks. Finally, I would just say that if things are as bad as they seem right now, RGIII will be past his prime by the time the Shanaclan get things figured out -- if they ever do!

This seems like a simple case of the game passing-by a once outstanding football coach.

One playoff win in 14 years. Doesn't take a generic website sports magazine to figure this one out. Its just the vast majority of fans on this site are still in the denial phase.

Here is a link to fellow redskins fans, in the spirit of recovery.

Phases of Grieving | eHow.com

rbanerjee23 · 11-12-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So you had a random thought from around the NFL...and decided to ignore that we have a weekly around the NFL thread and post it there?

I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me -- should I start a forgive me thread and post there?

rbanerjee23 · 11-12-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wasn't talking to you directly, it was just a general thought more than anything.

Don't take it so personal.

You're right -- that was a little too grouchy. I was just surprised at the response it got.

mlmpetert · 11-12-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

I think we all want to discuss the things it would take for us to get better and that means talking about what problems we have that need fixing.

You dont have to worry about fixing the postive things to get better......, That is, of course, unless its your defense. And your defensive personal and scheme happen to be the strength of your team and you want to change it because, um... well, i guess because it was just as pressing as..... or because an overhall was needed since.... Wait why did Mike make the change again?

The Goat · 11-12-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redskin29633

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

CultBrennan59 · 11-12-2012, 02:51 PM

Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed.

skinsfaninok · 11-12-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

Wow if true I agree he needs to be gone.

SmootSmack · 11-12-2012, 03:24 PM

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

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Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan said after a 21-13 home loss to the previously 1-6 Panthers that he would begin evaluat- ing which players would be part of the picture in 2013. Where Shanahan failed previously was not properly doing so this year.
Shanahan thought he had a playoff-caliber roster, and what holes there were could be caulked by the dynamic talents of pre- cocious rookie QB Robert Griffin III. Shanahan was right about Griffin — the kid is good — but wrong about the other 52 guys.
Why else would he gamble and give up so much (first-round picks gone the next two seasons), even for as rare a talent as RG3? If you had told Shanahan that the picks he would give up would be top-10s, I guarantee he would have hesitated.
As executive VP, this falls on Shanahan. Sure, he unearthed a nice fit for his zone scheme (sixth-round RB Alfred Morris) and the team has lost four starters to injury, but that also reflects on the depth of the bottom half of the roster — there is next to none.
When Shanahan was dusting the NFL in the 1990s with his offense, he could get away with undersized linemen because he had whiz OL coaches like Bobb McKittrick and Alex Gibbs, star receivers such as Jerry Rice, Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe and Hall of Fame QBs in Steve Young and John Elway.
Griffin is great, but even he can’t compensate for this mess on his own. Years of bad personnel moves, some under Shanahan’s watch, have left the Redskins’ till mostly bare. — Eric Edholm

Bucket · 11-12-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

You must feed the savages their blood man lol.

I dont think the team has regressed.. I think its currently plagued woth injuries and any team would be struggling with the same amount of them.

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CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,594	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

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