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Old 11-12-2012, 03:06 PM   #1321
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If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?
Wow if true I agree he needs to be gone.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:24 PM   #1322
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

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Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan said after a 21-13 home loss to the previously 1-6 Panthers that he would begin evaluat- ing which players would be part of the picture in 2013. Where Shanahan failed previously was not properly doing so this year.
Shanahan thought he had a playoff-caliber roster, and what holes there were could be caulked by the dynamic talents of pre- cocious rookie QB Robert Griffin III. Shanahan was right about Griffin — the kid is good — but wrong about the other 52 guys.
Why else would he gamble and give up so much (first-round picks gone the next two seasons), even for as rare a talent as RG3? If you had told Shanahan that the picks he would give up would be top-10s, I guarantee he would have hesitated.
As executive VP, this falls on Shanahan. Sure, he unearthed a nice fit for his zone scheme (sixth-round RB Alfred Morris) and the team has lost four starters to injury, but that also reflects on the depth of the bottom half of the roster — there is next to none.
When Shanahan was dusting the NFL in the 1990s with his offense, he could get away with undersized linemen because he had whiz OL coaches like Bobb McKittrick and Alex Gibbs, star receivers such as Jerry Rice, Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe and Hall of Fame QBs in Steve Young and John Elway.
Griffin is great, but even he can’t compensate for this mess on his own. Years of bad personnel moves, some under Shanahan’s watch, have left the Redskins’ till mostly bare. — Eric Edholm
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:32 PM   #1323
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You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW
You must feed the savages their blood man lol.

I dont think the team has regressed.. I think its currently plagued woth injuries and any team would be struggling with the same amount of them.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:03 PM   #1324
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Don't discourage a good witch hunt. Hatters gonna hatt every chance they get legit reason or not.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:42 PM   #1325
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I'm not sure Shanny would have used the picks wisely even if he had them back. I was one of those guys who kept wanting to build the o-line and getting a pass rushing DE who could actually pressure the QB and have to be accounted for. At one point I thought we could trade down..get an extra pick and get Aldon Smith. But I in no way regret trading up for RG3. It was always about getting a FQB with a lot of posters. Well I'm glad we waited for this one. Couldn't be happier about that. But we obviously didn't do much for the rest of the team before we got him. Trades for Jason Taylor and McNabb still make me sick every time I think about it. And as much as I respect Joe Gibbs.....giving up a third rounder for a RB we neither needed or even played for us..well....we've made plenty of stupid moves with draft choices.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:45 PM   #1326
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Man your stations!! We got us a witch to burn!!!
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:47 PM   #1327
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Wasted picks for McNabb, Jason Taylor. Also lets not forget about the wasted draft picks on Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly. Just imagine how solid we'd be if we'd drafted wisely and used those 3 2nd round picks and that 3rd rounder on the team instead of trading them away from nothing.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:48 PM   #1328
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Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed.
There's a 1st time for every thing. Don't know how far into the future it will happen, but one day a NFL head coach will win Super Bowls with two different teams.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:31 PM   #1329
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I'm stunned -stunned- that shanahan made the exact same mistake three years in a row.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:57 PM   #1330
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There's a 1st time for every thing. Don't know how far into the future it will happen, but one day a NFL head coach will win Super Bowls with two different teams.
Heck Holmgren almost did it with Sea. If the refs hadn't blown some calls (which the NFL apoligized for) he could've broken that trend.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:18 PM   #1331
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I'm stunned -stunned- that shanahan made the exact same mistake three years in a row.
Which one?
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:15 AM   #1332
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You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW
I didn't read a quote in there, so pretty doubtful it's anything more than the author's opinion. The criticism of personnel decisions is spot on though because personnel and scheme decisions are directly linked.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:14 PM   #1333
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I concur. I was against the McNabb trade and on the fence with the Brown trade. It was pretty foolish. I knew McNabb was overrated and what talent he did have was gone. If you take back those picks we gave up, we could potentially have 3 starters (or depth) out of it.

I do give Mike a pass on the Parker/Johnson/Galloway signing though. Remember, it was the uncapped year with teams using tenders on all their restricted FAs so we had nothing to really work with.





At first I was for waiting till the end of the season, but after it was apparent the defensive squad had stopped responding to this man, I wanted him out during this bye week. The team that played against Atlanta isn't the same team that played against the Steelers and Panthers. It was very apparent. I still think Mike's biggest downfall could very well be his selection of a DC to run this defense. I realize Jim was option #2, but surely there were other people more qualified than Jim. He had a year to figure this out.




Ruhskin and a couple others talked about the penalties the other week and mentioned how it's a clear sign of a undisciplined team or lack of leadership. This falls on Mike. Plain and simple. Mike should have suspended Kyle and Dhall for their parts. After the Morgan bit, he should have dropped the hammer that anymore would result in sitting for a game. He didn't and it's continued.




I think Mike's ego is getting in the way of some of this. Instead of just correcting the mistake like he did with McNabb, he's going to let this defense thing fester until it's too late.

I personally think he will not succeed here, but he will have a good base built for the next guy to come and get all the credit for turning around. I hope I'm wrong.






He'll definitely be swimming uphill. Said the other day that I'm not even sure why he took this job knowing it was in the shape it was. Vinny's stench is still haunting this team via capgate. Mike is basically going to have to hit homeruns on all the draft picks this upcoming off-season. He also didn't do himself any favors with the poor FA moves/trades. (McNabb/Brown/Jackson/Meriweather/Morgan)







By all means, rant.
So NC - me gtripp goat and mechanix are fools for doubting Shanny but HTTR 24-7 is spot on?
Im confused.
Edit: not sure how u can agree with everything that HTTR 24-7 has said but than say he will leave a solid foundation for the next guy. Suddenly you say he will not succeed here - yet every post you have made says that he is succeeding here - you have said repeatedly he is on the rite track - did u mean the rite track to failure?
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:23 PM   #1335
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Yeah.. Griffin would of already broken every record in the NFL, and thrown for 20 touchdowns if it wasn't for Shanahan
He wasnt being sarcastic. He is referring to inside info that we already had.
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