Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

punch it in · 11-13-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.

and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.

Who ever once said if you dont bash shanny your an a-hole? Thats just pure nonsense.
Also - i dont expect anybody to read every post by anyone. I know i dont.
I just made 5 posts about a pony? Dont care if they go unnoticed or unappreciated. Not sure how much content i can give pony talk. You are taking what i said out of context. When someone quotes me or mentions me by name and i counter with a good point - that is usually when i hear about my postcount.
This is fun for me - i learn alot on here - and i take it for what it is - football talk amongst fellow redskins fans.

SFREDSKIN · 11-13-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

Was it dink and dunk at Stanford? Not with Luck it wasn't, he reminds me of Gibbs, big OL with punishing RB and a bonus damn good QB. A winning combination

punch it in · 11-13-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

I think thats cus Alex Smith has a dink and dunk arm.

53Fan · 11-13-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

I'm guessing but he probably fits the offense to what he has. SF didn't really have much receiver or QB wise to work with in 2011 did they? I mean they did well but Morgan was hurt and Smith hadn't shown alot to that point. He didn't dink and duck with Luck.

skinsfaninok · 11-13-2012, 10:57 PM

I'll give u guys that, Alex Smith obviously is no where near Griffin

SFREDSKIN · 11-13-2012, 11:00 PM

Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. 2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule

skinsfaninok · 11-13-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. 2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule

No doubt he did great w luck.

The Goat · 11-13-2012, 11:23 PM

The contrast here is pretty good the last several pages. On the one hand you (still) have fans asking if there's any good/great HC prospects out there, and then when nobody steals the keyboard to answer lol they go on w/ the assumption Shanny just can't be replaced. And the other hand you have a damn fine educational dialogue about some good/great prospects out there. For what it's worth anyone named Roman is badass to the core. Git em!!

I really don't get the hate on Del Rio as a defensive coach. Look what he's done in Denver already. So you give him a stupid fancy title as Asst Head Coach - Defense. Roman is HC. Done. (Trying saying that in a Christopher Walken voice hehe)

The Goat · 11-13-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I think thats cus Alex Smith has a dink and dunk arm.

Smith definitely isn't asked to do too much. But then you have playoff games last year where he looked like a PBer. He's a tough one to figure out IMO.

SFREDSKIN · 11-14-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Back on topic and posting some info that is very disheartening to hear.

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
1. Haslett will be fired after this season
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
2. Internal discussions on if Raheem should get the job. 3. Some D coaches dont want morris to get the job..want team to go outside org
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
so damn frustrating knowing our defensive coaches are privately worried about who the DC should be NEXT year..not like we have a game sun..
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
@jaredkaufman front office is not all on board with Raheem.. split room.
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
I didn't even get to the offense and defense infighting that's going on.. Wish all this would just get fixed
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Aslo on the Pod... #Redskins executive on Shanahan " He is a joke at this point... A real expensive joke"
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Source: Snyder made Shanahan backtrack/spin from his "evaluation" comments.. That explains the awkward Monday presser where Dan was mentioned A lot
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Sunday will be the tell all for this team.. I hope they show up and play well to get the victory. A bad showing will increase the drama.
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LL ‏@HTTR24_7
for the record I have been a Shanahan guy since day 1.Still have hope, feel like a kid being told santa isn't real right about now

I think these past couple weeks has changed the game a bit in terms of Mike. If he allows this type of shit to continue on in and it shows on the field, it would be hard to bring him back. Coaches bickering about who's going to be the DC next year when the season isn't even over? Hey assholes, how about planning for the game this Sunday!!! It's like the coaches have given up as well gathering from these tweets. SMH

One thing that I judge coaches on is how the team responds. Sometimes you really can't go by wins, even though it generally reflects exactly how the team is responding. Many times they can respond very well and talent still not be there to win. That said, there was a difference in how the Skins have played the past two games. The team that played against the Falcons and Giants, aren't the same team that played against the Steelers or the Panthers. Same talent, but definitely not the same desire or fire.

We'll know Sunday. If the Skins lose or get blown out, you can expect it to get worse. I think our only chance is if RGIII rallies this team.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/httr-2-...ors-everywhere

The Goat · 11-14-2012, 12:28 AM

^^^ This stuff is not surprising, right? What did we think is going on behind the scene's for a team - players and coaches (coaches especially) - to be so poorly prepared for gamedays?

SFREDSKIN · 11-14-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

^^^ This stuff is not surprising, right? What did we think is going on behind the scene's for a team - players and coaches (coaches especially) - to be so poorly prepared for gamedays?

Did u listen to the radio conversation on the link I posted? Very interesting stuff.

The Goat · 11-14-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Did u listen to the radio conversation on the link I posted? Very interesting stuff.

Yep just about through it. Assuming it's legit I wonder which exec it is? Sometimes I wonder if Jerry Jones (he's an "exec" right?) just makes stupid shit up to mess with Danny Boy lol. Who knows?

Wonder how long this has been brewing too? Team has regressed steadily since the loss to NY...

Bucket · 11-14-2012, 02:23 AM

Assuming rumors are legit..

Now we are getting somewhere!

SmootSmack · 11-14-2012, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Back on topic and posting some info that is very disheartening to hear.

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
1. Haslett will be fired after this season
-------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
2. Internal discussions on if Raheem should get the job. 3. Some D coaches dont want morris to get the job..want team to go outside org
-------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
so damn frustrating knowing our defensive coaches are privately worried about who the DC should be NEXT year..not like we have a game sun..
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
@jaredkaufman front office is not all on board with Raheem.. split room.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
I didn't even get to the offense and defense infighting that's going on.. Wish all this would just get fixed
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Aslo on the Pod... #Redskins executive on Shanahan " He is a joke at this point... A real expensive joke"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Source: Snyder made Shanahan backtrack/spin from his "evaluation" comments.. That explains the awkward Monday presser where Dan was mentioned A lot
----------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Sunday will be the tell all for this team.. I hope they show up and play well to get the victory. A bad showing will increase the drama.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

LL ‏@HTTR24_7
for the record I have been a Shanahan guy since day 1.Still have hope, feel like a kid being told santa isn't real right about now

I think these past couple weeks has changed the game a bit in terms of Mike. If he allows this type of shit to continue on in and it shows on the field, it would be hard to bring him back. Coaches bickering about who's going to be the DC next year when the season isn't even over? Hey assholes, how about planning for the game this Sunday!!! It's like the coaches have given up as well gathering from these tweets. SMH

One thing that I judge coaches on is how the team responds. Sometimes you really can't go by wins, even though it generally reflects exactly how the team is responding. Many times they can respond very well and talent still not be there to win. That said, there was a difference in how the Skins have played the past two games. The team that played against the Falcons and Giants, aren't the same team that played against the Steelers or the Panthers. Same talent, but definitely not the same desire or fire.

We'll know Sunday. If the Skins lose or get blown out, you can expect it to get worse. I think our only chance is if RGIII rallies this team.

Good stuff. Some I already knew, some I could have pretty easily guessed. Some that doesn't really surprise me, and some that I'm surprised by.

LL/HTTR is good. Really good. He lives the life I used to live...and miss

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11-13-2012, 10:57 PM	#1445
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,993	I'll give u guys that, Alex Smith obviously is no where near Griffin __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-13-2012, 11:00 PM	#1446
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,502	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. 2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

11-13-2012, 11:23 PM	#1448
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? The contrast here is pretty good the last several pages. On the one hand you (still) have fans asking if there's any good/great HC prospects out there, and then when nobody steals the keyboard to answer lol they go on w/ the assumption Shanny just can't be replaced. And the other hand you have a damn fine educational dialogue about some good/great prospects out there. For what it's worth anyone named Roman is badass to the core. Git em!! I really don't get the hate on Del Rio as a defensive coach. Look what he's done in Denver already. So you give him a stupid fancy title as Asst Head Coach - Defense. Roman is HC. Done. (Trying saying that in a Christopher Walken voice hehe) __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

11-14-2012, 12:28 AM	#1451
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? ^^^ This stuff is not surprising, right? What did we think is going on behind the scene's for a team - players and coaches (coaches especially) - to be so poorly prepared for gamedays? __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

11-14-2012, 02:23 AM	#1454
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Assuming rumors are legit.. Now we are getting somewhere! __________________ HTTR Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

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