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Old 11-14-2012, 09:57 AM   #1471
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Rather have Joe Vitt.... just my 2 cents??? I really like the way he conducted himself through the whole Bounty thing.... Standing up for his guys and holding players accountable for their actions.
I was really hoping that Shannahan was going to turn this thing around.... Just seems we are getting worse as the year goes on.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:58 AM   #1472
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:59 AM   #1473
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The Wizards Ernie? He has no business talking about the Skins. If there is a joke of a franchise in DC it is the Wizards.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:10 AM   #1474
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I wonder if there has ever been a losing team that doesn't have internal strife. Nobody likes to lose. It raises the level of stress and tension in any organization. Winning some games would quickly get things back in order.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #1475
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As much as I'd hate to see this happen, we just need to 100% clean house. Get a young and up coming GM that has experience picking players..who loves the personnel side of it. That GM then picks a younger coach who can X and O and motivate, grow with RG3 and give us some type of identity on both sides of the ball. We need to find the next Jim Harbaugh and a young Bill Polian.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:33 AM   #1476
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I told you (pl.) so.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:37 AM   #1477
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:42 AM   #1478
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:52 AM   #1479
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Dear god. That could possibly even be worse than having Vinny.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:57 AM   #1480
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RG3 and a ton of money could make Gruden and a lot of coaches change their minds about coming here.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:03 AM   #1481
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I guess thats changed.

Replacing a Shanny with a Gruden, Cowher...just not a strong move imo. Doesnt make sense to me.

A move that I wouldnt mind (braces for attack) when it comes to retread at head coach would be Reid WITHOUT Marty Morningweg coming along.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:08 AM   #1482
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I'm pretty tired of hiring retreads myself. At least for HC. Seems like they win a SB then take a few years off waiting to be paid like they're the best or waiting for the perfect situation to come along.
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I'm pretty tired of hiring retreads myself. At least for HC. Seems like they win a SB then take a few years off waiting to be paid like they're the best or waiting for the perfect situation to come along.
Bill Cower is a Marty Schottenheimer disciple who may be past his prime. If anyone recalls, the Pittsburgh Steelers went 7-9 the year after they won SB40. Jon Gruden would make a good coach but we have to look at why he was fired in Tampa Bay. The year he was fired the Bucs started off 9-3 and finished 9-7 to miss the playoffs. We need to be careful of who we want as our coach in the future.

I'd want a young coach like a John and Jim Harbaugh. Not hire a coach that has won SBs in the past. It always almost doesn't work out. Just look at George Seifert.
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Bill Cower is a Marty Schottenheimer disciple who may be past his prime. If anyone recalls, the Pittsburgh Steelers went 7-9 the year after they won SB40. Jon Gruden would make a good coach but we have to look at why he was fired in Tampa Bay. The year he was fired the Bucs started off 9-3 and finished 9-7 to miss the playoffs. We need to be careful of who we want as our coach in the future.

I'd want a young coach like a John and Jim Harbaugh. Not hire a coach that has won SBs in the past. QIt always almost doesn't work out. Just look at George Seifert.
I agree. I'm really interested in guys like Roman. The OC for SF that SFREDSKIN brought up.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:28 AM   #1485
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If there is a move made against MS (which I still doubt until his contract is up for renewal barring a disaster in 2013) you have to consider the personnel implications of changing coaches, especially on offense. Let's just look at some players who probably won't fit into other schemes (power running game, vertical passing game, etc.) as much as they do our current scheme:
Alfred Morris-One cut, downhill, zone runner. He probably wouldn't be as effective in getting chunk yardage in a power game and wouldn't fit much at all in a spread passing game relying on speed and quickness.
Stieger, Chester, Monty-Playing pretty well as a unit but probably won't fit into a scheme requiring power blocking or pass blocking for a 5-7 step dropback passing game or spread passing game. Even T. Williams to a lesser extent whose strengths are his mobility and athleticism may not be as effective in a power scheme.
Morgan, Hankerson, Garcon- Arguments exist about how productive they are now but they are best suited for a WCO type, YAC passing game, not a spread (none are particularly quick) or vertical (none have blazing speed) passing attack.

Those are just off the top of my head but it's just to make a point that just changing the leadership isn't a magical cure to what ails this team.

While I get the frustration and angst with the results of the current regime, one of the reasons the Giants, Steelers and Packers remain competitive and at or near the top of the league every year is because they have philosophies that the organization is committed to and they draft and coach to those philosophies, not changing them every 2-3 years to suit a new master.
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