Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)

calia · 10-29-2012, 04:30 PM

I have an idea. Let's switch for a 4-3 during the bye week.

OK, all joking aside. I don't see how getting rid of Haslett helps. To be clear, there are instances when addition by subtraction is a viable strategy, and D. Hall is getting perilously close to the point where that could happen, but for coaches, that's generally a bad idea unless the locker room is lost. Moreover, on our staff, it doesn't seem like anyone has more experience with the defense we're running. And I don't get the sense that Haslett has lost the locker room (I haven't seen a single report indicating as much, which one often sees when that happens). I do think that the staff is now trying to think about how else it might generate pressure -- I think seeing Baker on the field yesterday was evidence of that (even though it was not successful). I also think they're pushing the CBs to press a little more at the line -- as evidenced by C. Griffin's penalty. But clearly, these things are not enough.

diehardskin2982 · 10-29-2012, 04:31 PM

Morris doesn't have exp in 3-4 other than here. Not ready yet

calia · 10-29-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Again, to clarify. I believe he's lost the locker room. And I'm basing that on knowing he's lost certain key players.

As for Raheem, I guess he'd be the natural successor if a change were made right now. I think the players like him. But I don't think he's ready to be a 3-4 DC

How do you know he's lost certain players? Not doubting your word, but I am curious as to what you've heard and what you know. And which players? If he's lost D. Hall, for example, it's hard to get too exercised about that. But if he's lost Fletcher, on the other hand, that would be genuine cause for concern.

SmootSmack · 10-29-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

How do you know he's lost certain players? Not doubting your word, but I am curious as to what you've heard and what you know. And which players? If he's lost D. Hall, for example, it's hard to get too exercised about that. But if he's lost Fletcher, on the other hand, that would be genuine cause for concern.

Wives like to talk about their husbands sometimes, that's how I know. And it's players that matter

los panda · 10-29-2012, 04:42 PM

i'm scared

Ruhskins · 10-29-2012, 04:42 PM

I feel that this might be the last year of this failed 3-4 experiment. We've never had the personnel for a 3-4 defense hence all the yards/points given up. I think we should wait to until the end of the season, but I get the feeling that if we lose to Carolina it may happen sooner.

RedskinRat · 10-29-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Wives like to talk about their husbands sometimes, that's how I know.

Oh, awesome! I LOVE "What's My Line?"?

You're a stylist in an expensive DC suburb and your stylist tag is Bob 'n' Weave?

SFREDSKIN · 10-29-2012, 04:52 PM

Aww shit! I thought the title said he's been let go. I say give Morris a try.

CrazyCanuck · 10-29-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Again, to clarify. I believe he's lost the locker room. And I'm basing that on knowing he's lost certain key players.

We don't have any key players on defense.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As for Raheem, I guess he'd be the natural successor if a change were made right now.

He's done a fantastic job with our DBs... a promotion is definitely in order.

VTSkins1961 · 10-29-2012, 05:03 PM

I voted he has to go now. Our defense has been going from bad to worse which can't fully attributed to injuries.... Morris can't do any worse as far as I'm concerned....

calia · 10-29-2012, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Oh, awesome! I LOVE "What's My Line?"?

You're a stylist in an expensive DC suburb and your stylist tag is Bob 'n' Weave?

Bob and Weave ought to be RGIII's nickname, with the fact that he's forced to run because our WRs cannot get open.

But seriously, the "wives like to talk to their husbands" response isn't terribly informative. And to be clear, I am not at all doubting your word, but I would like to hear a little more detail about how Haslett has lost the locker room and which players, in particular, no longer have faith in him. One or two malcontents griping doesn't move me; a larger groundswell from real team leaders does. And if we're talking about something as drastic as removing our DC, I would want to have more to go on before arriving at a view, and I would imagine that others on this site who follow the team and try to engage in informed discussions might as well.

SmootSmack · 10-29-2012, 05:11 PM

LOL. I tend to think Raheem will be one and done here. That's just my guess.

SmootSmack · 10-29-2012, 05:13 PM

Fletcher's disconnect with Haslett was a big reason why he nearly didn't return this year. Haslett and Alexander have butted heads plenty as well. As have Wilson and Haslett

Hog1 · 10-29-2012, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

We don't have any key players on defense.

He's done a fantastic job with our DBs... a promotion is definitely in order.

It's like a.....Federal program....

Chico23231 · 10-29-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Fletcher's disconnect with Haslett was a big reason why he nearly didn't return this year. Haslett and Alexander have butted heads plenty as well. As have Wilson and Haslett

SS, can you answer this...how do you think the reaction of the Path will be with the coach we are looking at to replace Haslett and will he (or she if Rex Ryan) continue with the 3-4?

View Poll Results: Should Haslett be fired?
Yes, do it now	46	33.09%
Wait til after the season	68	48.92%
No	25	17.99%
Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll

10-29-2012, 04:30 PM	#16
calia Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 44 Posts: 391	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) I have an idea. Let's switch for a 4-3 during the bye week. OK, all joking aside. I don't see how getting rid of Haslett helps. To be clear, there are instances when addition by subtraction is a viable strategy, and D. Hall is getting perilously close to the point where that could happen, but for coaches, that's generally a bad idea unless the locker room is lost. Moreover, on our staff, it doesn't seem like anyone has more experience with the defense we're running. And I don't get the sense that Haslett has lost the locker room (I haven't seen a single report indicating as much, which one often sees when that happens). I do think that the staff is now trying to think about how else it might generate pressure -- I think seeing Baker on the field yesterday was evidence of that (even though it was not successful). I also think they're pushing the CBs to press a little more at the line -- as evidenced by C. Griffin's penalty. But clearly, these things are not enough.

10-29-2012, 04:31 PM	#17
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) Morris doesn't have exp in 3-4 other than here. Not ready yet __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

10-29-2012, 04:42 PM	#20
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,852	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) i'm scared __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

10-29-2012, 04:42 PM	#21
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) I feel that this might be the last year of this failed 3-4 experiment. We've never had the personnel for a 3-4 defense hence all the yards/points given up. I think we should wait to until the end of the season, but I get the feeling that if we lose to Carolina it may happen sooner. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

10-29-2012, 04:52 PM	#23
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,505	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) Aww shit! I thought the title said he's been let go. I say give Morris a try. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-29-2012, 05:03 PM	#25
VTSkins1961 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 81	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) I voted he has to go now. Our defense has been going from bad to worse which can't fully attributed to injuries.... Morris can't do any worse as far as I'm concerned....

10-29-2012, 05:11 PM	#27
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) LOL. I tend to think Raheem will be one and done here. That's just my guess. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-29-2012, 05:13 PM	#28
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not) Fletcher's disconnect with Haslett was a big reason why he nearly didn't return this year. Haslett and Alexander have butted heads plenty as well. As have Wilson and Haslett __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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