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Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)

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View Poll Results: Should Haslett be fired?
Yes, do it now 46 33.09%
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:04 PM   #61
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Zorn wasn't new to the WCO though

We have a short list of potential DC's next year. None have ever been a DC yet in the NFL (that I recall)
I'd be ok with that depending on their background. Leslie Frazier and Raheem Morris are two guys who made the most of their opportunities when they were in the lower coaching ranks, and I'd be suprised if Raheem isn't a coordinator again pretty soon. Obviously he didn't work out as a head coach and the jury's still out on Frazier but both are guys who have definitely made the most of opportunities when they presented themselves. As long as it isn't another hire like Haslett (mediocre track record with being a d-coordinator and from what it sounds like wasn't even that enthusiastic about coaching a 3-4) I'm fine with it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:04 PM   #62
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Smoot what have you heard of Pepper Johnson and Kevin Greene as D.C. candidates or a possibility for us?
I heard Pepper's name once in passing. Greene haven't heard anything
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:05 PM   #63
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Slowik was a terrible DC. Think about all those years MS had a great offense in Denver and terrible defense then look at who was the DC. It was Slowik. Slowick should still be our defensive backs coach not the linebackers coach. I wonder if we could take Kirby Smart off Saban's staff?
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Thanks for the links. I was definitely talking about Bob, in terms of taking over in an interim capacity as DC here. I wouldn't really want Morris to take the job, and I was thinking that Bob Slowik has experience. Besides I now trust everyone named Bob!
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:11 PM   #65
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Thanks for the links. I was definitely talking about Bob, in terms of taking over in an interim capacity as DC here. I wouldn't really want Morris to take the job, and I was thinking that Bob Slowik has experience. Besides I now trust everyone named Bob!
i could live w that, just don't let him loose afterwards like robiskie
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:19 PM   #66
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I agree. Crazy to think Ron Rivera might be done after two years as the Panthers coach. Are their problems really that bad? I think they need to run the ball more on offense, but that's only because I have Jonathan Stewart in ff. Either way, if Rivera is available after the season I'd definitely bring him in for an interview, minimum.
Well, they're 1-6 and just fired their GM. It makes sense if you bring in a new GM, you let him clean house and bring in his own guys. Barring a big turnaround Rivera is likely done.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:19 PM   #67
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I still say it doesn't matter what sort of front we run as long as the secondary stinks. If we changed to a 4-3 right now, do you really think anything would be different?
Only if it brought more pressure on the QB which I think was probably the reason for switching to the 3-4 in the first place. We want to be like the team that just kicked our ass. Seems to work pretty well for them. But we have a secondary that beyond sucks and a DC that isn't very proficient at running it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:31 PM   #68
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Changing during the season makes no sense so can him after the season. I know we don't have players but it looks like the scheme isn't any good. The Rams game and this past one against Pittsburgh were just awful awful performacnes.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:35 PM   #69
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The defense was much better playing a 4-3 so MS has to take blame for this. I'd have to say for 7 mil a year Snyder isn't getting a good return on investment.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:39 PM   #70
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The defense was much better playing a 4-3 so MS has to take blame for this. I'd have to say for 7 mil a year Snyder isn't getting a good return on investment.
Has he ever? Perfect examples are Haynesworth and Hall.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:52 PM   #71
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As much as Haslett needs to go, I'd honestly be more concerned about getting better players and what's the plan on doing that. Who are the top free agents? Is it possible to move up in the draft? Demarcus Milliner from Alabama looks like a pretty damn good corner.
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Well, they're 1-6 and just fired their GM. It makes sense if you bring in a new GM, you let him clean house and bring in his own guys. Barring a big turnaround Rivera is likely done.
Oh yeah I forget about them firing Hurney. Good call on that.
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I'd kill if we could get the pilsbury dough boy from Houston.
Awesome thought but I don't see it happening in-season.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:57 PM   #74
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The problem isn't the 3-4. The problem is reserves not being able to play up to the level of injured starters. Jarvis Jenkins hasn't done squat in replacing Adam Carriker and while Rob Jackson and Chris Wilson are good backups, neither has generated the pass rush of Orakpo. Cofield and Bowen have played well. Kerrigan, Fletcher, and Riley have also played well. But Hall, Wilson, Madieu Williams, and Doughty have played poorly.

I don't think you can fire Haslett. While he's coordinates the defense, he isn't responsible for schooling the defensive backs. That falls on Raheem Morris and if the defensive backfield is under performing, then it falls on the secondary coach and not the defensive coordinator.
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I'm fine with staying in the 3-4, but let's get some players that fit in the system. I know he's a good player, but Cofield is not a 3-4 NT. We also need ILBs that can do a better job at covering TEs. The thing that sucks is that these areas are not even our biggest needs on D (secondary). Still, personnel-wise we haven't done a good job at bringing the right players for this system.
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