Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)

Ruhskins · 10-29-2012, 08:10 PM

I'm fine with staying in the 3-4, but let's get some players that fit in the system. I know he's a good player, but Cofield is not a 3-4 NT. We also need ILBs that can do a better job at covering TEs. The thing that sucks is that these areas are not even our biggest needs on D (secondary). Still, personnel-wise we haven't done a good job at bringing the right players for this system.

mooby · 10-29-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm fine with staying in the 3-4, but let's get some players that fit in the system. I know he's a good player, but Cofield is not a 3-4 NT. We also need ILBs that can do a better job at covering TEs. The thing that sucks is that these areas are not even our biggest needs on D (secondary). Still, personnel-wise we haven't done a good job at bringing the right players for this system.

I like Cofield, but also wish we had a true 3-4 NT type, like Casey Hampton.

Dirtbag59 · 10-29-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I still say it doesn't matter what sort of front we run as long as the secondary stinks. If we changed to a 4-3 right now, do you really think anything would be different?

I pointed this out before but right now we don't really have 4-3 personnel, mainly due to the fact that we're short on traditional linebackers.

I mean lets see.

OLB - Perry Riley (Coverage liability)
MLB - Fletcher
OLB - Orakpo

LDE - Carriker
DT - Bowen
DT - Cofield
RDE - Kerrigan

Ironically we have great depth on the defensive line, so much that it would be hard to give our best players up front snaps while on the back end we have an average at best LB corps. Then again that could be rectified with one offseason so maybe a switch is in the cards but theres no doubt about the fact that this team has made the transition to the 3-4.

53Fan · 10-29-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

what about Bob Diaco of notre dame? heard whispers about him, but dont know much. except they do run a 3-4

Notre Dame Needs to Enjoy Bob Diaco While They Still Have Him | Bleacher Report

hutch17 · 10-29-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Some will always be upset by that. Me? We could run a 0-7 for all I care. Just give me results

It looks like Ron Rivera will be getting the boot in Carolina, I remember liking him as a D coordinator. What was his specialty (3-4 vs 4-3) and what about him in the offseason.

hutch17 · 10-29-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Let him go after the season and focus on drafting/signing defensive starter secondary help and depth in the front 7.

Its a combination of not great coaching and severely lacking talent. There is only so much I could see being done with the players we currently have and the injuries. Fresh start on D next year seems like the best plan to me.

This defense would look worlds different with Orakpo, Carriker, Tanard jackson, and Merriweather. but I don't think Haslett will survive till next year without a massive turnaround.

Dirtbag59 · 10-29-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hutch17

It looks like Ron Rivera will be getting the boot in Carolina, I remember liking him as a D coordinator. What was his specialty (3-4 vs 4-3) and what about him in the offseason.

Rivera is a prick for lack of a better term.

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06:54 AM ET 09.13 | Rex Grossman, the NFL's favorite pinata took another beating off of it after San Diego linebacker Matt Wilhelm told a California newspaper that Chargers linebackers coach Ron Rivera advised his players they could rattle Grossman because he was "a mental midget."

But to answer your question, both. He was the DCoordinator for the Bears from 04 to 06 then he went to the Chargers originally as a LB coach specifically to get 3-4 experience and boost his chances of getting a HC job. He eventually went on to be the Chargers D-Coordintor from 08-10 before getting his current gig with Carolina.

firstdown · 10-29-2012, 10:15 PM

Why not just fire all the coaches.

Chico23231 · 10-29-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I pointed this out before but right now we don't really have 4-3 personnel, mainly due to the fact that we're short on traditional linebackers.

I mean lets see.

OLB - Perry Riley (Coverage liability)
MLB - Fletcher
OLB - Orakpo

LDE - Carriker
DT - Bowen
DT - Cofield
RDE - Kerrigan

Ironically we have great depth on the defensive line, so much that it would be hard to give our best players up front snaps while on the back end we have an average at best LB corps. Then again that could be rectified with one offseason so maybe a switch is in the cards but theres no doubt about the fact that this team has made the transition to the 3-4.

No way do we have a 4-3 personal. Bowen is NOT a DT. Orakpo is NOT a 4-3 linebacker. Those 2 are wayyyyyy outta position.

SFREDSKIN · 10-29-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Rivera is a prick for lack of a better term.

But to answer your question, both. He was the DCoordinator for the Bears from 04 to 06 then he went to the Chargers originally as a LB coach specifically to get 3-4 experience and boost his chances of getting a HC job. He eventually went on to be the Chargers D-Coordintor from 08-10 before getting his current gig with Carolina.

A prick is what the Redskins need, not a Boy Scout.

kct1975 · 10-29-2012, 10:38 PM

Yes Haslett is a has been and needs to go!

Eknox · 10-29-2012, 11:19 PM

Mangini is out there and knows.the 3-4.

Swarley · 10-29-2012, 11:26 PM

Riley is a bigger coverage liability than Orakpo? I don't think so.

SFREDSKIN · 10-29-2012, 11:36 PM

Fred Smoot calls Jim Haslett ‘pig-headed’

Dirtbag59 · 10-29-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swarley

Riley is a bigger coverage liability than Orakpo? I don't think so.

Never said that he wasn't but to get our best guys on the field you would have to use Orakpo in a similar capacity to the way Blache used him his rookie year. I just wanted to take the opportunity to point out that Riley has been bad in coverage this year though it's not entirely his fault as he's been matched up against guys he shouldn't be covering on a somewhat regular basis.

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