Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)

Mattyk · 10-30-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

We need a new DC, but switching back to a 4-3 would be another epic, set-the-franchise-back typical mistake. Id rather keep Haslett than switch back to 4-3.

Yeah I don't see the point in switching now, and I seriously doubt it will happen. Shanahan came here with the intent of having a 3-4 defense. I don't think he's going to give up on that.

skinsfanmdc · 10-30-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah I don't see the point in switching now, and I seriously doubt it will happen. Shanahan came here with the intent of having a 3-4 defense. I don't think he's going to give up on that.

Hey Mat or Smot. I was listening to 980 and they are talking about Shanny. One thing that got me is they said if shanny leaves the possibility of cerrato coming back. I spazzed out... In your opinion how would you react if that happened. If that did happended I would be done with this team. If the 980host said "I would be done with this team".

Chico23231 · 10-30-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah I don't see the point in switching now, and I seriously doubt it will happen. Shanahan came here with the intent of having a 3-4 defense. I don't think he's going to give up on that.

when you look at our numbers, our rushing defense is very solid, even with our injuried players out-which says our scheme works. If we revamped our secondary with a new starter at FS, Merriweather at SS, J Wilson at 2nd CB, new #1 CB, and a round 2 or 3 CB or Crawford at the Nickle with both Orakpo and underrated Carriker back in the line up rushing the passer...I think we see a defense in the top half of the league, maybe a top ten.

53Fan · 10-30-2012, 12:34 PM

I see no point in switching to a 4-3 either. We've been drafting for the 3-4 and it can be very effective with the right personell and coaching.

los panda · 10-30-2012, 12:36 PM

who is talking about switching back to a 4-3?

Mattyk · 10-30-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

Hey Mat or Smot. I was listening to 980 and they are talking about Shanny. One thing that got me is they said if shanny leaves the possibility of cerrato coming back. I spazzed out... In your opinion how would you react if that happened. If that did happended I would be done with this team. If the 980host said "I would be done with this team".

I don't think Snyder would be that dumb.

Chico23231 · 10-30-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by los panda

who is talking about switching back to a 4-3?

well its in the discussion if we get a new defensive coridnator. Its pretty much a given Haslett is gone after the season. So if we hire someone who runs a 4-3, obvious it would set us back do to personel. Its a legit question.

los panda · 10-30-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

well its in the discussion if we get a new defensive coridnator. Its pretty much a given Haslett is gone after the season. So if we hire someone who runs a 4-3, obvious it would set us back do to personel. Its a legit question.

i think shanny is committed to the 3-4, can't see him bringing someone in to run a 4-3.

RedskinRat · 10-30-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

when you look at our numbers, our rushing defense is very solid, even with our injuried players out-which says our scheme works. If we revamped our secondary with a new starter at FS, Merriweather at SS, J Wilson at 2nd CB, new #1 CB, and a round 2 or 3 CB or Crawford at the Nickle with both Orakpo and underrated Carriker back in the line up rushing the passer...I think we see a defense in the top half of the league, maybe a top ten.

Couldn't agree more and when it's all in place the Offense will also look even better.

Hate saying 'Next year', but that's the way it's headed.

los panda · 10-30-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Couldn't agree more and when it's all in place the Offense will also look even better.

Hate saying 'Next year', but that's the way it's headed.

i'm already on 2014 w the cap penalties, any success before then is a welcome surprise.

The Goat · 10-30-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Prove it

The contracts of Cofield, Bowen, Merriwether, Garcon and Morgan together are greater than Haynesworth, no?

You can give Cofield the benefit of the doubt, which I do, and say he's out of position.

The rest is just blah. Guys that for one reason or another don't contribute much, but the overarching theme is we spent a wad of cash on high-risk/uncertain reward type players. Garcon and Morgan have done nothing in their careers up to this point to justify what they were given. I don't care that another franchise may have given them the same. How are those franchises doing btw? The Niners clearly let Morgan walk, and appear to be better off because of it, no?

In short, Mike's FA moves overall have been a gigantic failure, as were Cerrato's. It's the reaction (talking about fans here) that's been different, but again I don't suspect it will last much longer.

The Goat · 10-30-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

I wish I could find the article I read about how we play the Steelers defense......but not the way they play it. They usually start out pretty basic and then bring on disquised blitzes etc. And they are very good at disquising what they're doing. With Hasletts defense they rarely fool anyone and without that our defense is pretty easy to read. The Steelers offense was a step or two ahead of us all day. Haslett may know the 3-4 but he definitely doesn't have the creativity to get the most out of it.

I remember that read, it was excellent.

los panda · 10-30-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

The contracts of Cofield, Bowen, Merriwether, Garcon and Morgan together are greater than Haynesworth, no?

You can give Cofield the benefit of the doubt, which I do, and say he's out of position.

The rest is just blah. Guys that for one reason or another don't contribute much, but the overarching theme is we spent a wad of cash on high-risk/uncertain reward type players. Garcon and Morgan have done nothing in their careers up to this point to justify what they were given. I don't care that another franchise may have given them the same. How are those franchises doing btw? The Niners clearly let Morgan walk, and appear to be better off because of it, no?

In short, Mike's FA moves overall have been a gigantic failure, as were Cerrato's. It's the reaction (talking about fans here) that's been different, but again I don't suspect it will last much longer.

bowen is an animal
i wouldn't say morgan is playing below his contract
meriweather just isn't playing
garcon isn't living up to his, but i don't fault him for that (this is the first time he has missed more than 2 games in a season)

Meks · 10-30-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's no clear choice to replace him now. So wait until the end of the season and get...

Agreed... until we have a good choice of 3-4 coach to replace him we are stuck with him...

RedskinRat · 10-30-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by los panda

i'm already on 2014 w the cap penalties, any success before then is a welcome surprise.

I have changed in the last few seasons, since Gibbs Ver. 2.0.

Long view, hard as it is to maintain as a fan. With RGIII we now have a great (possibly the greatest, potential-wise) QB to build around.

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