Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation

Mattyk · 11-05-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Think people believe Morgan got paid a lot more than he actually did

It's basically a 2 year $12M deal, voidable by the team after 2013.

Paintrain · 11-05-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

I don't!
He is getting paid to be a #2 WR and only has 309 yards more than halfway through the season. No TDs and atleast 6 drops.
That's not even factoring in his mental mistake.
35 yards per game average is not acceptable for a starter.

I really never understood what someone's paycheck has to do with anything. Victor Cruz is being paid like a street free agent. If he was making Calvin Johnson money would that make his play any more or less valuable to his team's results on Sunday?

I'm not really looking at stats, I'm watching the games and I've been happy with what Morgan has brought so far. He's been relatively consistent with his hands, get some YAC, fights for the ball and extra yards. If I recall he's had 2 TD called back on penalties. Without viable options such as Garçon and Davis, he's stepped up IMO.

Mattyk · 11-05-2012, 11:27 AM

I think SS mentioned this yesterday, but we need to get Morgan down the field more often, let him use his size to go up for balls. In general we probably need to stretch the field more.

SmootSmack · 11-05-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think SS mentioned this yesterday, but we need to get Morgan down the field more often, let him use his size to go up for balls. In general we probably need to stretch the field more.

Wasn't me. But it's a good point

Deivybaby · 11-05-2012, 12:03 PM

Briscoe should start. Robinson had chance whi not briscoe

Michaelt31 · 11-05-2012, 12:03 PM

Josh Wilson by all means is terrible! Everybody putting Hall down, put Wilson on the slot receiver and see how bad he really is! Hall might not be good, but Wilson is by far worse! We will find out in the next few weeks against Philly and Dallas. I think Hall is bad, but I think he is better on the outside rather than holding the slot receiver.

donofriose · 11-05-2012, 12:14 PM

No one on our defense has been impressive at all. Our pass rush sucks. I didn't even remember Kerrigan got a sack. Everyone is being single blocked and taken out of the game. Or run defense is not good. None of the linebackers including fletcher are making standout plays and they are getting beat frequently. I don't need to say anything about our secondary. Our qb, rb, and Oline have been the positives of this season. Our receivers have not been making plays and part of being good is being healthy (garçon, Davis). We have a lot of concerns for this team moving forward. I just have to hope mike/Allen have a plan for this team because a majority of this team needs to be upgraded.

GTripp0012 · 11-05-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chico23231

gomes got abused in coverage when he started and on the field. He is ok in run support, but ive seen he has also studied the rocky mcintosh "book of bad angles" which he takes alot as well. Doesnt have the speed or knowledge for an nfl safety.

+1.

44Deezel · 11-05-2012, 10:56 PM

Offense:
RGIII, Morris, Darrell Young, the entire O-line minus Polumbus, Garcon, Fred Davis, Josh Morgan, Logan Paulsen.

Defense:
Kerrigan, Orakpo, Coefield, Bowen, Karriker

Everyone else is either expendable or worth trying to upgrade.

Maybe Merriwether and Jackson can help next year, but a top flight CB needs to be added. I actually believe a true #1 CB and a legit pass rusher would change the whole outlook for the Defense. Merriwether and Jackson have to be upgrades at Safety and moving Josh Wilson to #2 CB with better pass rush will make all the difference in the world.

Offense could use more pass-pro and more playmakers are always a good thing, although a healthy Garcon, Davis and even Helu should provide a boost in RGIII's second year.

Even with the $18mil penalty, the Skins will be middle of the pack in terms of money to spend in free agency.

44Deezel · 11-05-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I really never understood what someone's paycheck has to do with anything. Victor Cruz is being paid like a street free agent. If he was making Calvin Johnson money would that make his play any more or less valuable to his team's results on Sunday?

I'm not really looking at stats, I'm watching the games and I've been happy with what Morgan has brought so far. He's been relatively consistent with his hands, get some YAC, fights for the ball and extra yards. If I recall he's had 2 TD called back on penalties. Without viable options such as Garçon and Davis, he's stepped up IMO.

He's a good blocker as well.

DynamiteRave · 11-05-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Add Santana Moss and Grossman to that list, maybe even Rocca.

Moss? Unless its a money issue, the guy doesn't have that much of a career left anyway. Another what, 2-3 years maybe? It'd be nice for him to go out a Skin, he's had some serious miscues this season (and his hands are suspect sometimes), but he's also come through for us as well.

Fletcher may wanna consider hanging it up after this season. He had a stellar season last season but he's been kinda getting abused so far this year. Best to go out while you're remembered for being an all-star linebacker, not a guy past his prime.

Rocca is playing with a bum knee, IN his kicking leg. The bye week should help. Might wanna bring in some competition for next year though.

Skins4L · 11-06-2012, 03:24 AM

Josh Morgan
Rex Grossman
and the entire secondary besides Hall whos getting embaressed by being part of such a horrible secondary.
Like i said.. we should have kept Landry hes playing FINE for NYJ still doing what he does sure a liability in coverage but thats fine these guys we have make NO PLAYS.

Skins4L · 11-06-2012, 03:25 AM

some people here hate big names. but big names and big talent go hand and hand.

Skins4L · 11-06-2012, 03:30 AM

we need to smack Free Agency in the face with a DB and a WR bigtime. Not JOSH MORGAN... god i thought that was a horrible pickup.

Bucket · 11-06-2012, 03:48 AM

HTTR 24-7 - Redskins Offensive Player Grades At The Bye Week

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11-05-2012, 11:27 AM	#18
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation I think SS mentioned this yesterday, but we need to get Morgan down the field more often, let him use his size to go up for balls. In general we probably need to stretch the field more. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-05-2012, 12:03 PM	#20
Deivybaby Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 125	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation Briscoe should start. Robinson had chance whi not briscoe

11-05-2012, 12:03 PM	#21
Michaelt31 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 12	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation Josh Wilson by all means is terrible! Everybody putting Hall down, put Wilson on the slot receiver and see how bad he really is! Hall might not be good, but Wilson is by far worse! We will find out in the next few weeks against Philly and Dallas. I think Hall is bad, but I think he is better on the outside rather than holding the slot receiver.

11-05-2012, 12:14 PM	#22
donofriose Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 708	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation No one on our defense has been impressive at all. Our pass rush sucks. I didn't even remember Kerrigan got a sack. Everyone is being single blocked and taken out of the game. Or run defense is not good. None of the linebackers including fletcher are making standout plays and they are getting beat frequently. I don't need to say anything about our secondary. Our qb, rb, and Oline have been the positives of this season. Our receivers have not been making plays and part of being good is being healthy (garçon, Davis). We have a lot of concerns for this team moving forward. I just have to hope mike/Allen have a plan for this team because a majority of this team needs to be upgraded.

11-05-2012, 10:56 PM	#24
44Deezel The Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Davidsonville Posts: 1,434	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation Offense: RGIII, Morris, Darrell Young, the entire O-line minus Polumbus, Garcon, Fred Davis, Josh Morgan, Logan Paulsen. Defense: Kerrigan, Orakpo, Coefield, Bowen, Karriker Everyone else is either expendable or worth trying to upgrade. Maybe Merriwether and Jackson can help next year, but a top flight CB needs to be added. I actually believe a true #1 CB and a legit pass rusher would change the whole outlook for the Defense. Merriwether and Jackson have to be upgrades at Safety and moving Josh Wilson to #2 CB with better pass rush will make all the difference in the world. Offense could use more pass-pro and more playmakers are always a good thing, although a healthy Garcon, Davis and even Helu should provide a boost in RGIII's second year. Even with the $18mil penalty, the Skins will be middle of the pack in terms of money to spend in free agency. __________________ I am a system poster.

11-06-2012, 03:24 AM	#27
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 538	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation Josh Morgan Rex Grossman and the entire secondary besides Hall whos getting embaressed by being part of such a horrible secondary. Like i said.. we should have kept Landry hes playing FINE for NYJ still doing what he does sure a liability in coverage but thats fine these guys we have make NO PLAYS. __________________ ALL HAIL

11-06-2012, 03:25 AM	#28
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 538	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation some people here hate big names. but big names and big talent go hand and hand. __________________ ALL HAIL

11-06-2012, 03:30 AM	#29
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 538	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation we need to smack Free Agency in the face with a DB and a WR bigtime. Not JOSH MORGAN... god i thought that was a horrible pickup. __________________ ALL HAIL

11-06-2012, 03:48 AM	#30
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: Midseason (+1 game) Player Evaluation HTTR 24-7 - Redskins Offensive Player Grades At The Bye Week This is exactly how I see it at the moment.. I enjoy this mans blog. __________________ HTTR Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

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