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Old 11-28-2012, 12:36 AM   #181
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Well, it stands to reason. This was a Vinny Cerratto kind of move by Shanahan. You don't trade away a 3rd round pick for an injured player. The trade for Brown was in my opinion worse than the trade Ceratto made for Jason Taylor.
You are not accounting for the fact that both Washington and New Orleans thought that his health might improve. Your current 20/20 hindsight was not available when we got Brown.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:44 AM   #182
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You are not accounting for the fact that both Washington and New Orleans thought that his health might improve. Your current 20/20 hindsight was not available when we got Brown.
What matters is the end result. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan could have used that 3rd round pick to draft a RT. Brown was/is a great offensive lineman but he is equivalent to an old man who needs a hip replacement. I get tired of reading about this guy's injured hip. I don't blame Shanahan for making the trade but if Brown had health issues at the time Shanahan was talking to the Saints, he should have considered giving the Saints a lower draft pick since it was in exchange for an ailing player. A third rounder was too much to give away.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:33 AM   #183
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I know you're not trying to mock me... Your username is a joke, but as far as jokes, it comes in second - behind your opinions.
I was saying what you SHOULD have said. Chill bra!

My screen name is meant to be a joke.

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Old 11-28-2012, 01:49 AM   #184
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I was saying what you SHOULD have said. Chill bra!

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Old 11-28-2012, 10:29 AM   #185
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Let me say it again - right tackle needs to be the redskins Third priority in the offseason, behind Safety and Cornerback.
Agreed. Not that RT is solid by any means - but D is without a doubt a bigger problem than our offense. Personally though I think we will be able to adress both needs. - one in FA and one with our second round pick. Than with the other picks - depth depth depth - along the oline and secondary.
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Don't tell me to chill or tell me what I should say
you were being something of a jerk and he was trying to diffuse your hostility in a friendly way. youve just scored one douchebag point
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:03 AM   #187
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Let me ask a question that may let some of you see it from a different perspective- who is the player that is most important to the redskins right now and will be for the duration of his career? So why would you not put the greatest priority in protecting him? Forget secondary and defense, if there's no RGIII then there's no hope. And many fans are content to let someone in front of him just do a decent enough job to protect him. And just think about RGIII - do you really want him just getting by with decent protection with guys like Pierre-Paul trying to hurt him? I like polumbus, but if there's a chance to upgrade- that would be my first priority - because protecting RGIII should be the biggest priority.
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you were being something of a jerk and he was trying to diffuse your hostility in a friendly way. youve just scored one douchebag point
You know what - diffuse this - I don't care
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:14 AM   #189
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What matters is the end result. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan could have used that 3rd round pick to draft a RT. Brown was/is a great offensive lineman but he is equivalent to an old man who needs a hip replacement. I get tired of reading about this guy's injured hip. I don't blame Shanahan for making the trade but if Brown had health issues at the time Shanahan was talking to the Saints, he should have considered giving the Saints a lower draft pick since it was in exchange for an ailing player. A third rounder was too much to give away.
Shanny did just what you said. The original asking price for Brown, a Pro Bowler at the time, was a first and a third. Shanny got Brown for less than that.
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Let me ask a question that may let some of you see it from a different perspective- who is the player that is most important to the redskins right now and will be for the duration of his career? So why would you not put the greatest priority in protecting him? Forget secondary and defense, if there's no RGIII then there's no hope. And many fans are content to let someone in front of him just do a decent enough job to protect him. And just think about RGIII - do you really want him just getting by with decent protection with guys like Pierre-Paul trying to hurt him? I like polumbus, but if there's a chance to upgrade- that would be my first priority - because protecting RGIII should be the biggest priority.
I understand what you're saying. This is why I don't understand Mike Shanahan's logic of drafting offensive linemen like Compton in the 6th round and "given them time to develop" when he should have drafted a T in the earlier rounds who could play right away. Compton played in the ALL VALLEY Missouri Football Conference for goodness sakes!!! Unless you truly follow college football, you've never heard of that conference. Compton is not a player who will start probably for the next 2 or three years even if he's still on the team by then.
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Let me ask a question that may let some of you see it from a different perspective- who is the player that is most important to the redskins right now and will be for the duration of his career? So why would you not put the greatest priority in protecting him? Forget secondary and defense, if there's no RGIII then there's no hope. And many fans are content to let someone in front of him just do a decent enough job to protect him. And just think about RGIII - do you really want him just getting by with decent protection with guys like Pierre-Paul trying to hurt him? I like polumbus, but if there's a chance to upgrade- that would be my first priority - because protecting RGIII should be the biggest priority.
There are 10 guys on the field with RGIII who are there to "protect" him, whether it's a lineman blocking, or a receiver getting open quickly, or a running back picking up a blitz. We shouldn't lose sight of making the entire team better just for RT
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I understand what you're saying. This is why I don't understand Mike Shanahan's logic of drafting offensive linemen like Compton in the 6th round and "given them time to develop" when he should have drafted a T in the earlier rounds who could play right away. Compton played in the ALL VALLEY Missouri Football Conference for goodness sakes!!! Unless you truly follow college football, you've never heard of that conference. Compton is not a player who will start probably for the next 2 or three years even if he's still on the team by then.
That post made zero sense
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:21 AM   #193
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That post made zero sense
Smoot, how so?
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:23 AM   #194
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Let me ask a question that may let some of you see it from a different perspective- who is the player that is most important to the redskins right now and will be for the duration of his career? So why would you not put the greatest priority in protecting him? Forget secondary and defense, if there's no RGIII then there's no hope. And many fans are content to let someone in front of him just do a decent enough job to protect him. And just think about RGIII - do you really want him just getting by with decent protection with guys like Pierre-Paul trying to hurt him? I like polumbus, but if there's a chance to upgrade- that would be my first priority - because protecting RGIII should be the biggest priority.
Protecting RGIII has value, obviously. HOWEVER, the team needs defensive talent in many places. RGIII, by his style and nature, will take hits. Every quarterback takes hits, some take more than him some take less. The FO has to make every effort to put a winning team together, not a vessel for the Great RGIII (no sarcasm meant). Griffin has dealt with injuries in his past, and has overcome them. I have no doubt that if the worst were to happen, he would work his butt off to come back again.

No one is saying ignore the line, but short of a top32 draft pick you probably aren't getting a day one starter, so let's let our draft picks and players compete, develop and transition in (or if they can't, get more bodies in) to keep trying to find the right players for the future)
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:29 AM   #195
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Smoot, how so?
First, you're assuming that a T drafted higher from a bigger school would be kicking ass right now...like say Bobby Massie

Second, your whole thing about "unless you truly follow college football" What is that? I mean you do realize the scouts' jobs are to "truly follow college football" and find the players from schools no one thinks about. Players like...Alfred Morris for example
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