Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes

That Guy · 11-30-2012, 01:03 PM

davis is the best option, i'm just saying, if someone wants to overpay him, there are two other guys we can get for less in FA that'd be fine. paulsen has been okay, but he's not a solid #1 pass catcher.

los panda · 11-30-2012, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

davis is the best option, i'm just saying, if someone wants to overpay him, there are two other guys we can get for less in FA that'd be fine. paulsen has been okay, but he's not a solid #1 pass catcher.

let's sign winslow and shockey to huge deals

punch it in · 11-30-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by los panda

let's sign winslow and shockey to huge deals

And Cooley. We will have another "over the hill gang" at tight end. Kilmer can be the assisstant to the traveling secondary.

REDSKINS4ever · 11-30-2012, 01:55 PM

I wish Cooley would get in the mix. He hasn't caught one damn pass since returning.

punch it in · 11-30-2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I wish Cooley would get in mix. He hasn't caught one damn pass since returning.

If he did you wouldnt give him credit for it anyway.

los panda · 11-30-2012, 02:03 PM

seriously, he's only 30. that's ancient for a rb, not for a te.

were the injuries that serious? my bias won't let me realize it

SmootSmack · 12-05-2012, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I can respect your argument.

No, not really. Did mention a couple of weeks back that they gave Compton a nice raise after a few teams sought him out. I suspect he'll get a December call up and will be in the plans for 2013. Think Maurice Hurt might be in the mix too.

So, he's been called up today per the Washington Post

CrustyRedskin · 12-05-2012, 01:52 PM

They showed them all working together zone blocking Monday night and it was a thing of beauty!!!

JoeRedskin · 12-05-2012, 01:59 PM

Compton called up? Nice. I just hope he isn't Selvish Capers Redux.

Is he taking Griffin's spot? If so, it would appear that they are just holding what they got and going with Crawford as next man up in the defensive backfield.

GridIron26 · 12-05-2012, 02:39 PM

Another perspective on our O-line

RGIII is vastly outperforming his offensive line

The Goat · 12-05-2012, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Another perspective on our O-line

RGIII is vastly outperforming his offensive line

Good find 26, it's a strong article and analysis. I'm not convinced Mike can build a (ZBS) line that works in this division and/or era of football. The run blocking is ok, but much of that success goes back to Morris and RG3 as oppossed to the oline. And the line is garbage in pass blocking.

I think everyone is right to some degree on this issue. Those who say RG3 makes the line better are correct, but the hidden cost (hits on him) is almost as astounding as his talent. Regardless of whether the gimmick offense Mike and Kyle run can work long term against defenses, I think it's already a foregone conclusion it can not work longterm for the person actually running the offense i.e. the QB. Most QBs taking this kind of pounding don't last the season, and the data clearly proves it:

NFL Stats: by Team Category

The Goat · 12-05-2012, 02:56 PM

...you can still make a very, very strong argument that RG3 and the Redskins are succeeding in spite of the regime, rather than because of it. Very disappointed to hear the FO (which is the same as the coach for us

) is looking to extend. There's too much coaching talent available to sacrifice your franchise QB over a few short years. Allen and Snyder should be talking to EVERYONE right now.

PWNED · 12-05-2012, 03:03 PM

how are you sacrificing your QB? id love to know someone who would come in here and put up the numbers mike and kyle have with what we currently have on offense.

SmootSmack · 12-05-2012, 03:07 PM

Only a moron would dismiss the offense as some flash in the pan, gimmick offense

CRedskinsRule · 12-05-2012, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Goat

Good find 26, it's a strong article and analysis. I'm not convinced Mike can build a (ZBS) line that works in this division and/or era of football. The run blocking is ok, but much of that success goes back to Morris and RG3 as oppossed to the oline. And the line is garbage in pass blocking.

I think everyone is right to some degree on this issue. Those who say RG3 makes the line better are correct, but the hidden cost (hits on him) is almost as astounding as his talent. Regardless of whether the gimmick offense Mike and Kyle run can work long term against defenses, I think it's already a foregone conclusion it can not work longterm for the person actually running the offense i.e. the QB. Most QBs taking this kind of pounding don't last the season, and the data clearly proves it:

NFL Stats: by Team Category

didn't you post that link once and it was pointed out that Luck has taken 20+ more hits, and that half the qb's in the league take within 10 the same number of hit as Griffin. In other words one number doesn't prove your statement.
Here are some historical running QB's and one non runner, and their respective careers:

Cunningham played 1985-1995 (main team)
Steve Young took over from Montana in 90 played till 98
McNabb played from 1999 to 2009 (main team)
Vick 2001-2006, 2009-2011

A point of reference, Peyton Manning, a qb who we all would agree was not the mobile scrambler type played from 1999-2010, and was out a year with his neck injuries.

And of course Favre who took tons of hits and kept on playing.

11-30-2012, 01:03 PM	#241
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,618	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes davis is the best option, i'm just saying, if someone wants to overpay him, there are two other guys we can get for less in FA that'd be fine. paulsen has been okay, but he's not a solid #1 pass catcher. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

11-30-2012, 01:55 PM	#244
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes I wish Cooley would get in the mix. He hasn't caught one damn pass since returning.

11-30-2012, 02:03 PM	#246
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,850	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes seriously, he's only 30. that's ancient for a rb, not for a te. were the injuries that serious? my bias won't let me realize it __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

12-05-2012, 01:52 PM	#248
CrustyRedskin The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 1,992	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes They showed them all working together zone blocking Monday night and it was a thing of beauty!!! __________________ But you know the sun's settin' fast, and just like they say, nothing good ever lasts.

12-05-2012, 01:59 PM	#249
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,140	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Compton called up? Nice. I just hope he isn't Selvish Capers Redux. Is he taking Griffin's spot? If so, it would appear that they are just holding what they got and going with Crawford as next man up in the defensive backfield. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

12-05-2012, 02:39 PM	#250
GridIron26 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,543	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Another perspective on our O-line RGIII is vastly outperforming his offensive line

12-05-2012, 02:56 PM	#252
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,020	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes ...you can still make a very, very strong argument that RG3 and the Redskins are succeeding in spite of the regime, rather than because of it. Very disappointed to hear the FO (which is the same as the coach for us ) is looking to extend. There's too much coaching talent available to sacrifice your franchise QB over a few short years. Allen and Snyder should be talking to EVERYONE right now. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

12-05-2012, 03:03 PM	#253
PWNED The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ZOMGZZZ!!111 Age: 21 Posts: 1,153	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes how are you sacrificing your QB? id love to know someone who would come in here and put up the numbers mike and kyle have with what we currently have on offense. __________________ 143 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.

12-05-2012, 03:07 PM	#254
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Only a moron would dismiss the offense as some flash in the pan, gimmick offense __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes

Redskins Locker Room