Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes

SmootSmack · 12-05-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

Another perspective on our O-line

RGIII is vastly outperforming his offensive line

But then Pro Football Focus has them I believe in the top 10 (maybe top 15).

So the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, I suppose

Certainly RG3 has helped (in a big way) but I think it's quite frankly insulting (not addressing you here) to act like Mike, Kyle, Chris Foerster and the OL have nothing to do at all when the offense is successful. You'd have to be clueless to think that

FRPLG · 12-05-2012, 03:12 PM

Ptg ^

CRedskinsRule · 12-05-2012, 03:12 PM

and none of those qb's, except Vick maybe, played with anywhere near the protection the rules provide the qb in today's game...

The Goat · 12-05-2012, 03:14 PM

This season, as in the 12 games we've all watched, has shown us this offense only produces consistently when RG3 is (overly) exposed to big hits from defenders running the pistol/option/etc. We've had full quarters of traditional offense without any success, hardly even a first down. Only a moron doesn't see this.

Again, the gimmicks may yield offensive production for x number of years, but anyone who thinks RG3 or any other human being can play this way for x number of years isn't qualified to procreate, drive a car, etc etc lol.

Mattyk · 12-05-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Only a moron would dismiss the offense as some flash in the pan, gimmick offense

Pretty much everyone I've heard talk about the offense this week either on ESPN or NFL radio agrees it's not a gimmick. The pistol is just a short shotgun and gives you the ability to run out of it. No gimmicks there.

Mattyk · 12-05-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But then Pro Football Focus has them I believe in the top 10 (maybe top 15).

So the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, I suppose

Certainly RG3 has helped (in a big way) but I think it's quite frankly insulting (not addressing you here) to act like Mike, Kyle, Chris Foerster and the OL have nothing to do at all when the offense is successful. You'd have to be clueless to think that

Agreed.

Plus, we just tore up the defending champs for 200+ yards rushing in each of our meetings. I think it's safe to say the zone blocking scheme works here as far as the running game goes. Last I checked you still need holes in order to run. Is the pass pro perfect? Of course not. And this stuff with not crediting the coaches is just beyond tired. Is anyone with half a brain really buying that?

The Goat · 12-05-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Agreed.

Plus, we just tore up the defending champs for 200+ yards rushing in each of our meetings. I think it's safe to say the zone blocking scheme works here as far as the running game goes. Last I checked you still need holes in order to run. Is the pass pro perfect? Of course not. And this stuff with not crediting the coaches is just beyond tired. Is anyone with half a brain really buying that?

We have to be very careful here. Yes the coaches get credit for the scheme (it's their scheme lol!!) but you have to give them "credit" for all the results/implications of the scheme. I'm doing that...giving credit for the whole enchilada.

I think some very, very short-sighted fans are giving credit for the offensive production and not the other implications. See?

I also think it's very short-sighted to not recognize RG3 certainly can/hopefully will flourish in a wide variety of offensive schemes/systems.

Hog1 · 12-05-2012, 03:30 PM

So.....many morons..
They're holding the Hog1 back....

JoeRedskin · 12-05-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

So.....many morons..
They're holding the Hog1 back....

Don't worry Hog1, you can succeed no matter what scheme the morons use.

Mattyk · 12-05-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

We have to be very careful here. Yes the coaches get credit for the scheme (it's their scheme lol!!) but you have to give them "credit" for all the results/implications of the scheme. I'm doing that...giving credit for the whole enchilada.

I think some very, very short-sighted fans are giving credit for the offensive production and not the other implications. See?

I also think it's very short-sighted to not recognize RG3 certainly can/hopefully will flourish in a wide variety of offensive schemes/systems.

Do you think we'd be better off running a more traditional offense right now given the garbage pass pro as you call it? What sort of offense would you rather see?

I guess I'm just not understanding what your point is overall with your continued criticisms of this offense.

Of course RG3 is super talented and can probably adjust to just about any system. But I think right now given that he's a rookie and we have some weaknesses in pass pro, the system we're running is pretty damn effective and takes full advantage of his strengths while masking some of our weaknesses.

I know, there I go crediting the coaches again. Silly me.

Your version of crediting is just a little odd. The run blocking is ok? We're #1 in the league in rushing.

SmootSmack · 12-05-2012, 04:04 PM

How not to cover vs. Robert Griffin III - NFC East Blog - ESPN

For all of the talk you hear about the Washington Redskins and their "gimmicky" offense with rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III, Griffin's actually been pretty good this year when he's thrown the ball way downfield. Griffin is the leading passer in the NFL in completion percentage and yards per attempt on throws that travel at least 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, and what may be most impressive is how well he identifies when to take those chances.

That Guy · 12-05-2012, 04:15 PM

hey matty, shut up. the goat is obviously smarter than you or anyone else here and we should just be thankful that he's willing to pass onto us the opinions of oil men in regards to pro football. his vast experience in the league as both a head coach and owner solidify his solid resume of football knowledge, and thus he must continue to bravely shout the truth of the redskins from on high.

of course, it's much easier to take him seriously if you don't read his posts.

stay strong.

fire shanahan.

Mattyk · 12-05-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How not to cover vs. Robert Griffin III - NFC East Blog - ESPN

For all of the talk you hear about the Washington Redskins and their "gimmicky" offense with rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III, Griffin's actually been pretty good this year when he's thrown the ball way downfield. Griffin is the leading passer in the NFL in completion percentage and yards per attempt on throws that travel at least 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, and what may be most impressive is how well he identifies when to take those chances.

I mean really, as a D what do you do? The Giants kept their safeties deep and we just gashed them underneath. You bring your safeties up and RG3 will burn you over the top.

FRPLG · 12-05-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Don't worry Hog1, you can succeed no matter what scheme the morons use.

ahahahhaahhhhhaahhah!

Ruhskins · 12-05-2012, 05:02 PM

Just from glancing at some comments, I take it some people still have problem with the playcalling/offensive scheme? If that is the case, I don't get it. Sure every offense, including ours, is going to have it's questionable calls/botched plays, etc. But right now I think our offense is one of the best in the league and one that is very hard to defend.

We are #1 in rushing yards, #2 in yds per rush, #1 in yds per game, and #7 in rushing TDs

In terms of passing, we are in the 20s in terms of total yds, but we are towards the top in the following categories: completion % (#6), yds per pass (tied for first), QB rating (#3), and least INTs (#2).

In overall offense we are top ten in total yardage, total points, total yds per game, and points per game. I put total points and points per game in bold, because I don't think this is something we have been good at in the past.

Sure there have been a couple of disappointing games and maybe we don't have the best offensive line or WRs. But we're playing some good f*cking football and anyone in general who is being all Chicken Little/Debbie Downer about our offense needs is just not very smart IMO.

12-05-2012, 03:12 PM	#257
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Ptg ^

12-05-2012, 03:12 PM	#258
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,908	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes and none of those qb's, except Vick maybe, played with anywhere near the protection the rules provide the qb in today's game...

12-05-2012, 03:14 PM	#259
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes This season, as in the 12 games we've all watched, has shown us this offense only produces consistently when RG3 is (overly) exposed to big hits from defenders running the pistol/option/etc. We've had full quarters of traditional offense without any success, hardly even a first down. Only a moron doesn't see this. Again, the gimmicks may yield offensive production for x number of years, but anyone who thinks RG3 or any other human being can play this way for x number of years isn't qualified to procreate, drive a car, etc etc lol. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

12-05-2012, 03:30 PM	#263
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes So.....many morons.. They're holding the Hog1 back.... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

12-05-2012, 04:04 PM	#266
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,102	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes How not to cover vs. Robert Griffin III - NFC East Blog - ESPN For all of the talk you hear about the Washington Redskins and their "gimmicky" offense with rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III, Griffin's actually been pretty good this year when he's thrown the ball way downfield. Griffin is the leading passer in the NFL in completion percentage and yards per attempt on throws that travel at least 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, and what may be most impressive is how well he identifies when to take those chances. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-05-2012, 04:15 PM	#267
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes hey matty, shut up. the goat is obviously smarter than you or anyone else here and we should just be thankful that he's willing to pass onto us the opinions of oil men in regards to pro football. his vast experience in the league as both a head coach and owner solidify his solid resume of football knowledge, and thus he must continue to bravely shout the truth of the redskins from on high. of course, it's much easier to take him seriously if you don't read his posts. stay strong. fire shanahan. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

12-05-2012, 05:02 PM	#270
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Just from glancing at some comments, I take it some people still have problem with the playcalling/offensive scheme? If that is the case, I don't get it. Sure every offense, including ours, is going to have it's questionable calls/botched plays, etc. But right now I think our offense is one of the best in the league and one that is very hard to defend. We are #1 in rushing yards, #2 in yds per rush, #1 in yds per game, and #7 in rushing TDs In terms of passing, we are in the 20s in terms of total yds, but we are towards the top in the following categories: completion % (#6), yds per pass (tied for first), QB rating (#3), and least INTs (#2). In overall offense we are top ten in total yardage, total points, total yds per game, and points per game. I put total points and points per game in bold, because I don't think this is something we have been good at in the past. Sure there have been a couple of disappointing games and maybe we don't have the best offensive line or WRs. But we're playing some good fcking football and anyone in general who is being all Chicken Little/Debbie Downer about our offense needs is just not very smart IMO. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force Last edited by Ruhskins; 12-05-2012 at 05:10 PM.*

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