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Old 12-05-2012, 09:48 PM   #61
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RgIII needs to avg. 71.5 yds. rushing in the last 4 games to reach 1000 yards, I have a gut feeling that he will run another long TD within those 4 games.
I think it's coming this week
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:02 PM   #62
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RG3 has vaulted the Redskins into the top 5/top 10 in many categories and is the reason why we are winning games. There are many talking heads throwing RG3's name in the MVP consideration. I don't know if he is THE best player in the NFL, but he is certainly among the best.
He's certainly a big part of it but not the only reason. He gets help from Garcon coming back, Morris... and how about the defense holding NY to 3 second half points. As usual, the QB gets too much credit for winning and too much blame for losing.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:13 PM   #63
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He's certainly a big part of it but not the only reason. He gets help from Garcon coming back, Morris... and how about the defense holding NY to 3 second half points. As usual, the QB gets too much credit for winning and too much blame for losing.
Yeah but if RG3 is out, we don't win. If Wilson doesn't play, the Seahawks lose; the same goes for Luck, Manning, and maybe Brady.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:31 PM   #64
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RG3 has 17 pass TD and 4 INT this season. The only rookie in NFL history with a better differential? Dan Marino: 20 TD and 6 INT in 1983
you have any more of that gum?
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:33 PM   #65
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RG3 has 17 pass TD and 4 INT this season. The only rookie in NFL history with a better differential? Dan Marino: 20 TD and 6 INT in 1983
I believe Charlie Batch is tied with Marino
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:02 PM   #66
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Ron Jaworski current QB ratings...

1) Peyton
2) Brady
3) Rogers
4) Ryan
5) Big Ben
6) Schaub
7) Eli
8) Brees
9) Flacco
10) Cutler
11) Romo
12) Freeman
13) Rivers
14) Stafford
15) Luck
16) Griffin
17) Dalton
18) Newton
19) Wilson
20) Kapernick
21) Palmer
22) Bradford
23) Fitzpatrick
24) Henne
25) Ponder
26) Tannehill
27) Sanchez
28) Locker
29) Quinn
30) Weeden
31) Foles
32) Anyone on Arizona
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:08 PM   #67
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any link for his rationale?
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:12 PM   #68
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any link for his rationale?
We now see why Mike Shanahan was so upset after losing to Carolina. It wasn't because he was packing it in; it's because he saw how good this team could be with Griffin. Look at where the Redskins would be with one more win. I have to applaud what the Skins' offensive coaches have done with Griffin, showing how the spread option and pistol formations can work in the NFL. They've stuck with them, even when they weren't always successful, and RG3 has executed everything well. Contrary to perception, they don't go overboard on options. In the Monday night game against the Giants, the Redskins called only six option plays. But they're often the memorable ones because they yield big chunks of yardage. Combined with the Shanahan running game, the play-action passing game is lethal because of the respect Washington commands running the football. One final note: The maturity I've seen from Griffin, Luck and Wilson is just uncommon. The way they handle the media and their teammates has shown class and character. The way they carry themselves is a testament to their families, colleges and coaches.

That is what he said under RG3, not really any reasoning for his position. He said he had Luck over RG3 because Luck has shown the ability to come back from mistakes and still win games (like Eli Manning)
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FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2012

These rankings I believe are more accurate for my line of thinking.
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FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2012

These rankings I believe are more accurate for my line of thinking.
RGIII ranked ninth for anyone not wanting exert the energy to click the link.

Ninth! His first season! OMFG!!!!!!!

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Ron Jaworski current QB ratings...

1) Peyton
2) Brady
3) Rogers
4) Ryan
5) Big Ben
6) Schaub
7) Eli
8) Brees
9) Flacco
10) Cutler
11) Romo
12) Freeman
13) Rivers
14) Stafford
15) Luck
16) Griffin
17) Dalton
18) Newton
19) Wilson
20) Kapernick
21) Palmer
22) Bradford
23) Fitzpatrick
24) Henne
25) Ponder
26) Tannehill
27) Sanchez
28) Locker
29) Quinn
30) Weeden
31) Foles
32) Anyone on Arizona
Flacco 9? Who here would want Flacco over RGIII; please just stupid.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:31 PM   #72
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We now see why Mike Shanahan was so upset after losing to Carolina. It wasn't because he was packing it in; it's because he saw how good this team could be with Griffin. Look at where the Redskins would be with one more win. I have to applaud what the Skins' offensive coaches have done with Griffin, showing how the spread option and pistol formations can work in the NFL. They've stuck with them, even when they weren't always successful, and RG3 has executed everything well. Contrary to perception, they don't go overboard on options. In the Monday night game against the Giants, the Redskins called only six option plays. But they're often the memorable ones because they yield big chunks of yardage. Combined with the Shanahan running game, the play-action passing game is lethal because of the respect Washington commands running the football. One final note: The maturity I've seen from Griffin, Luck and Wilson is just uncommon. The way they handle the media and their teammates has shown class and character. The way they carry themselves is a testament to their families, colleges and coaches.

That is what he said under RG3, not really any reasoning for his position. He said he had Luck over RG3 because Luck has shown the ability to come back from mistakes and still win games (like Eli Manning)
what a load of crock.

I know Luck is going to be good, but he is right now a 1:1 td/int middle of the pack passer rating player.
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what a load of crock.

I know Luck is going to be good, but he is right now a 1:1 td/int middle of the pack passer rating player.
I concur, everyone is hyping Luck because he comes from behind and gets the W... what they forget is the reason he is behind is because he puts them in tough spots, which also forces him to throw the ball more often. Redskins go up by 28 points which means Griffin is not going to need to pass the ball as often. I think going 14/15 for 4 touchdowns is better than anything Luck has done all season.
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I concur, everyone is hyping Luck because he comes from behind and gets the W... what they forget is the reason he is behind is because he puts them in tough spots, which also forces him to throw the ball more often. Redskins go up by 28 points which means Griffin is not going to need to pass the ball as often. I think going 14/15 for 4 touchdowns is better than anything Luck has done all season.
I agree. Part of the reason for the come from behind wins is because the INTs have caused the Colts to fall behind in games. Don't get me wrong, I think Luck will be an excellent QB for many years to come -- probably elite. But I don't see how anyone can claim that there's a player more integral to the team's success than RGIII is to ours. I know some defensive players (Watt, Aldon Smith) are having monster seasons, and there are some pretty stellar offensive numbers too (Adrian Peterson, Schaub), but all of thost teams have other major impact players. The closest thing we have is an excellent RB in Morris, but there's no other individual player that teams around the league likely covet (although Garcon may well find himself with that status). RGIII for MVP -- heck, it even rhymes.
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I concur, everyone is hyping Luck because he comes from behind and gets the W... what they forget is the reason he is behind is because he puts them in tough spots, which also forces him to throw the ball more often. Redskins go up by 28 points which means Griffin is not going to need to pass the ball as often. I think going 14/15 for 4 touchdowns is better than anything Luck has done all season.
I think Luck could go either way. I see him in the Eli mode more than Peyton. Some years he will be the king of clutch, other times not so much.
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