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Old 11-26-2012, 01:16 PM   #31
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Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option

Part of the problem in pass defense is the Redskins defensive backs were playing trail technique in their coverages. Trail technique is something Raheem Morris brought with him from Tampa Bay. For instance that 77 yard bomb from Eli Manning to Victor Cruz earlier this season was a result of Madieu Williams playing trail technique. The play was suppose to go to Hakeem Nicks and Williams was actually playing Nicks to the inside. Cruz then flies up the field and runs past Madieu Williams and Josh Wilson and Eli Manning hits him in stride.

That trail technique is the reason why the Redskins are ranked 31st against the pass. In the last two games against the Eagles and Cowboys, the Redskins defensive backs didn't play trail technique as frequently.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:05 PM   #32
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Well, if we go 4-1, I would rather see that one loss against the Ravens or the Browns. I just feel it hurts this team too much for it to be against an NFC opponent at this point in the season, especially it being against an NFC East opponent. I still feel the only way to ensure the 'skins getting into the playoffs is to win out, but I understand even going 4-1 the rest of the way is going to be a tough task to accomplish.

What us fans can hang our hats on right now is the fact that the Redskins seem to match up well against the Giants, the Ravens aren't really playing very good ball right now at all, the fact that the 'skins have already beaten the Eagles and the Cowboys once and can do it again, and that the Browns are definitely a beatable team as well. So, it's definitely not impossible to think the Redskins could at least go 4-1 the rest of the way, if not 5-0, but either task is going to take a flawless effort on both offense and defense.

In the end though, you can't be too disappointed if this team ends at 8-8. Sure, we want the 'skins to be 10-6 and in the playoffs. I don't want the Redskins to lose another game the rest of my life! However, to make it to 8-8 after being down 3-6 and losing several very key players is nothing to be upset about. That's a 5-2 record down the stretch without guys like Fred Davis, Brian Orakpo, Adam Carriker, and Brandon Merriweather. To me, if this team is 8-8, it tells me even losing some key players, this team improved and showed it in the win column. With those players healthy next year in addition to some new players, this team will hopefully continue to turn the corner and would be expected to make at least make the wild card round.
Couldn't agree more. 8-8 is a solid record considering the circumstances.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:32 PM   #33
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LOL. The excited fan in us all. But take a step back and look at this realistically. We are all excited about beating Philly and Dallas, but both of those teams really do suck and were just always overrated. People are talking about playoffs when in reality, we may not even win another game and finish the season 5-11. This is how it could realistically pan out. Remaining games are:

vs NYG=Loss- They are simply a better team than us on both sides of the ball and has gelled stronger as a team since we played them in week 7.

vs Baltimore=Loss- Another good team who has had 4 game winning streaks TWICE this season

@ Cleavland=Loss-Tough game. Cleavland took Dallas into overtime in Dallas. They don't have many weapons but Trent Richardson is a beast and they are a gritty tough nosed team.

@ Philly=Loss-In Philly, tough environment. Got the upperhand on them the first time but teams adjust and watch tape for the second time you come up against them. Andy Reid may be trying to save his job so the team will come out hungry and prepared.

vs Dallas=Loss. Same statement as above, we already played them once and teams adjust for the second matchup. Jason Garrett will propably be on the hot seat as well and desperate for this win.

The Redskins have no homefield advantage playing in Fedex so that's not a pro against NYG, Bmore and Dallas. We also had and still have one of the worst if not worst passing defenses in the league as was on full display against Dallas in the second half. Josh Wilson and Deangelo Hall will not magically turn into Darrelle Revis/Champ Bailey and shut down Cruz, Nicks, Torrey Smith, Dez Bryant. Madoodoo Williams will not magically become a starting caliber NFL safety. The Redskins defense will not all of a sudden start generating pressure on the opposing QB without blitzing, Orakpo and Carriker. Jim Haslett will not transform into Dick Lebeau in the next few days. Kyle Shanahan will not turn into an offensive guru overnight and stop calling plays that make you scratch your head on 3rd and short.

No harm in hoping for miracles but let's not get ahead of ourselves or too dissapointed if the above happens.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:39 PM   #34
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I didn't expect the Packers to roll over and die against the NYG last night. I expected more fire and competition from Green Bay. Regardless of what the Giants did last night, they still have a hard road to travel. They have to face the Redskins, Ravens, and Falcons on the road before the season is over. I don't have them winning any of those games. The Redskins can still win the NFC Eastern division.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:41 PM   #35
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LOL. The excited fan in us all. But take a step back and look at this realistically. We are all excited about beating Philly and Dallas, but both of those teams really do suck and were just always overrated. People are talking about playoffs when in reality, we may not even win another game and finish the season 5-11. This is how it could realistically pan out. Remaining games are:

vs NYG=Loss- They are simply a better team than us on both sides of the ball and has gelled stronger as a team since we played them in week 7.

vs Baltimore=Loss- Another good team who has had 4 game winning streaks TWICE this season

@ Cleavland=Loss-Tough game. Cleavland took Dallas into overtime in Dallas. They don't have many weapons but Trent Richardson is a beast and they are a gritty tough nosed team.

@ Philly=Loss-In Philly, tough environment. Got the upperhand on them the first time but teams adjust and watch tape for the second time you come up against them. Andy Reid may be trying to save his job so the team will come out hungry and prepared.

vs Dallas=Loss. Same statement as above, we already played them once and teams adjust for the second matchup. Jason Garrett will propably be on the hot seat as well and desperate for this win.

The Redskins have no homefield advantage playing in Fedex so that's not a pro against NYG, Bmore and Dallas. We also had and still have one of the worst if not worst passing defenses in the league as was on full display against Dallas in the second half. Josh Wilson and Deangelo Hall will not magically turn into Darrelle Revis/Champ Bailey and shut down Cruz, Nicks, Torrey Smith, Dez Bryant. Madoodoo Williams will not magically become a starting caliber NFL safety. The Redskins defense will not all of a sudden start generating pressure on the opposing QB without blitzing, Orakpo and Carriker. Jim Haslett will not transform into Dick Lebeau in the next few days. Kyle Shanahan will not turn into an offensive guru overnight and stop calling plays that make you scratch your head on 3rd and short.

No harm in hoping for miracles but let's not get ahead of ourselves or too dissapointed if the above happens.

That big win Thursday really got you in a bad mood?
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LOL. The excited fan in us all. But take a step back and look at this realistically. We are all excited about beating Philly and Dallas, but both of those teams really do suck and were just always overrated. People are talking about playoffs when in reality, we may not even win another game and finish the season 5-11. This is how it could realistically pan out. Remaining games are:

vs NYG=Loss- They are simply a better team than us on both sides of the ball and has gelled stronger as a team since we played them in week 7.

vs Baltimore=Loss- Another good team who has had 4 game winning streaks TWICE this season

@ Cleavland=Loss-Tough game. Cleavland took Dallas into overtime in Dallas. They don't have many weapons but Trent Richardson is a beast and they are a gritty tough nosed team.

@ Philly=Loss-In Philly, tough environment. Got the upperhand on them the first time but teams adjust and watch tape for the second time you come up against them. Andy Reid may be trying to save his job so the team will come out hungry and prepared.

vs Dallas=Loss. Same statement as above, we already played them once and teams adjust for the second matchup. Jason Garrett will propably be on the hot seat as well and desperate for this win.

The Redskins have no homefield advantage playing in Fedex so that's not a pro against NYG, Bmore and Dallas. We also had and still have one of the worst if not worst passing defenses in the league as was on full display against Dallas in the second half. Josh Wilson and Deangelo Hall will not magically turn into Darrelle Revis/Champ Bailey and shut down Cruz, Nicks, Torrey Smith, Dez Bryant. Madoodoo Williams will not magically become a starting caliber NFL safety. The Redskins defense will not all of a sudden start generating pressure on the opposing QB without blitzing, Orakpo and Carriker. Jim Haslett will not transform into Dick Lebeau in the next few days. Kyle Shanahan will not turn into an offensive guru overnight and stop calling plays that make you scratch your head on 3rd and short.

No harm in hoping for miracles but let's not get ahead of ourselves or too dissapointed if the above happens.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:52 PM   #40
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I just played a Pittsburgh team on their decrepit 3rd string QB...with no o-line. And they got 8 turnovers.

They won by 6.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:56 PM   #41
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We can win two straight divisional games and the sky still falls.
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vs NYG=Loss- They are simply a better team than us on both sides of the ball and has gelled stronger as a team since we played them in week 7.

vs Baltimore=Loss- Another good team who has had 4 game winning streaks TWICE this season

@ Cleavland=Loss-Tough game. Cleavland took Dallas into overtime in Dallas. They don't have many weapons but Trent Richardson is a beast and they are a gritty tough nosed team.

@ Philly=Loss-In Philly, tough environment. Got the upperhand on them the first time but teams adjust and watch tape for the second time you come up against them. Andy Reid may be trying to save his job so the team will come out hungry and prepared.

vs Dallas=Loss. Same statement as above, we already played them once and teams adjust for the second matchup. Jason Garrett will propably be on the hot seat as well and desperate for this win.
I started this post and made cons and pros for each statement then after typing for about 30 mins i deleted it all and it comes down to this...

Any given Sunday.... or Monday night on Dec 3rd.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:01 PM   #43
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The way things are shaping up, 8-8 might win the division.
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LOL. The excited fan in us all. But take a step back and look at this realistically. We are all excited about beating Philly and Dallas, but both of those teams really do suck and were just always overrated. People are talking about playoffs when in reality, we may not even win another game and finish the season 5-11. This is how it could realistically pan out. Remaining games are:

vs NYG=Loss- They are simply a better team than us on both sides of the ball and has gelled stronger as a team since we played them in week 7.

vs Baltimore=Loss- Another good team who has had 4 game winning streaks TWICE this season

@ Cleavland=Loss-Tough game. Cleavland took Dallas into overtime in Dallas. They don't have many weapons but Trent Richardson is a beast and they are a gritty tough nosed team.

@ Philly=Loss-In Philly, tough environment. Got the upperhand on them the first time but teams adjust and watch tape for the second time you come up against them. Andy Reid may be trying to save his job so the team will come out hungry and prepared.

vs Dallas=Loss. Same statement as above, we already played them once and teams adjust for the second matchup. Jason Garrett will propably be on the hot seat as well and desperate for this win.

The Redskins have no homefield advantage playing in Fedex so that's not a pro against NYG, Bmore and Dallas. We also had and still have one of the worst if not worst passing defenses in the league as was on full display against Dallas in the second half. Josh Wilson and Deangelo Hall will not magically turn into Darrelle Revis/Champ Bailey and shut down Cruz, Nicks, Torrey Smith, Dez Bryant. Madoodoo Williams will not magically become a starting caliber NFL safety. The Redskins defense will not all of a sudden start generating pressure on the opposing QB without blitzing, Orakpo and Carriker. Jim Haslett will not transform into Dick Lebeau in the next few days. Kyle Shanahan will not turn into an offensive guru overnight and stop calling plays that make you scratch your head on 3rd and short.

No harm in hoping for miracles but let's not get ahead of ourselves or too dissapointed if the above happens.
Even me, goat and punch don't think we are that bad. RG3 is good for at least 3 wins in the next 5 games the way he has been playing. Truth is, with the defense playing mediocre like they have the last couple weeks, we have taken out two division foes convincingly. (Even though they are both in disarray, it gives our guys confidence, which is exactly what they needed after the losing streak and Shanny's presser). I believe that we can go 4-1 and either win or back in. I believe there is a 1 in 20 shot that we could back in going 3-2, but neither of those two could be against the GMen.

Fact is, if we win out, we are definitely in. If we win 4, we are about 60% to get in,win 3, and that drops to about 5%. The pressure is on, and while I don't see us winning a super bowl this year, making a tough meaningful run at the playoffs in RG3's first year will do wonders when talking about the growth of the team. It might be just what they need.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:11 PM   #45
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It is just refreshing to watch a team that can score 30+ points a game? That in and of itself gives me hope the Redskins can win games down the stretch. Even with the Skins giving up points to the Cowboys in the 2nd half Thursday, the offense found a way to score 10 more points in the 2nd half. Let's face it, this is not your father's NFL, its more NBA anymore with tons of points being scored every week. The 17-10 games don't happen much any more. There are more 35-31 type games. A bend but don't break Defense that can get turnovers is really all you need. Keep winning the turnover battle, which gives your offense more possesions than their offense and you have a better chance to win. Come up big on 3rd down a few more times than they do to force a FG, and you can win. Do we all lose our hair while we watch? Absolutley, but it can work!
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