Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option

Gtothearry · 12-23-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

No it's not, Fox has lost out the past two years on these games and aren't happy.

Wait and see.

skinsfan69 · 12-23-2012, 08:38 PM

Cowboys will pile up a lot of yards. Hopefully we can make a few stops and get a turnover or two.

Lotus · 12-23-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

If we lose against Dallas, it will be the most crushing loss in my sports-watching career. Seriously. I know it's just sports, but that shit will linger for a while for me if we lose.

Now, the key is: don't lose.

Then for your sake I pray we don't lose.

The most crushing loss in my sports career was the Super Bowl against the Raiders. We were defending champions and a veritable juggernaut. We came so very close to being rare repeat champions. Instead Marcus Allen sent us home in tears.

SkinzWin · 12-23-2012, 08:45 PM

It worries me how the Cowboys have been making these come from behind moves in the 4th quarter of all these games. I'm used to them blowing the 4th quarter, not making up ground and winning them. Bothersome. We still going to kill it next week though!!!

redsk1 · 12-23-2012, 08:57 PM

Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?

GTripp0012 · 12-23-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?

NFC records would be even. But common opponents is the tiebreaker after head to head and division record.

Dallas is 8-4 vs common opponents, and we are 7-5.

redsk1 · 12-23-2012, 09:01 PM

Answered my own question:

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
1.Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5.Strength of victory.
6.Strength of schedule.
7.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9.Best net points in common games.
10.Best net points in all games.
11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
12.Coin toss

Sounds like Dallas has us in common games...Gotta win.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-23-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?

Redskins playoff scenarios: Best way is win and in - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

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Redskins playoff scenarios: Best way is win and in

In response to multiple requests, here are the Redskins’ playoff scenarios.

NFC East

Yes, the Cowboys lost today and the Giants, as of this writing, seemed destined to lose to the Ravens. But the Redskins do not clinch the division today. And they can’t if they lose next week to the Cowboys.

The Redskins must beat Dallas next week to win the NFC East. Period.

If they beat Dallas they will win the division because of the best overall. If they lose to Dallas they will lose the tiebreaker to them. They will have split head to head and they both would have 4-2 division records. The next tiebreaker is best record in common games. The Cowboys have that tiebreaker.

Some believe that the tiebreaker after division record is conference record. It is not, check this link.

If the Giants do lose to the Ravens they can’t win the division. Even if they beat the Eagles next week and the Cowboys beat the Redskins, they are out of the three-way tiebreaker pool with their 3-3 division record.

Wild card

If the Redskins do lose to the Cowboys next week, they could win a wild card but they would need some help.

Assuming that the Bears keep their substantial lead over the Cardinals, they would move to 9-6 along with the Vikings. Seattle is 9-5 and they play tonight against the 49ers.

The good news for the Redskins is that they would hold tiebreakers over all of those teams if they finish at 9-7. The bad news is that they need help if those teams are going to finish with nine wins.

So one team between the Vikings, Bears, and Seahawks can get to 10 wins and the Redskins can still make the playoffs. But if two do, a 9-7 Redskins team is out.

If the Redskins are going to go in as a wild card at 9-7, the Vikings and Bears both need to lose next Sunday or if the Seahawks drop their final two, either the Vikings or Bears would need to lose next Sunday.

That’s a lot of help that would be needed. The win and in is obviously the preferred scenario.

Bushead · 12-23-2012, 09:10 PM

Eventually their magic has to run out (cowboys that is). They have had for 3 weeks miracle 4th quarter come from behind wins. Cincy had several chances to put it away. Steelers have a kickoff that might go the distance but they fumble, give up 7, turn the ball over. 14 points on saints.

The skins protect the ball, get a couple turnovers, I feel good about it.

skinsfaninok · 12-23-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushead

Eventually their magic has to run out (cowboys that is). They have had for 3 weeks miracle 4th quarter come from behind wins. Cincy had several chances to put it away. Steelers have a kickoff that might go the distance but they fumble, give up 7, turn the ball over. 14 points on saints.

The skins protect the ball, get a couple turnovers, I feel good about it.

Dallas is so beat up on defense and ware got hurt today also. Romo is on fire lately but I agree we control the clock and no TOs and we win by a score

Schneed10 · 12-23-2012, 10:08 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Seahawks will hold on to beat the 49ers. Here's our updated scenario, things are a lot simpler now because we can't catch the Seahawks if we lose next week.

4 Seed: W over Cowboys

Lose to the Cowboys, and have the following happen:

6 Seed:
Packers beat the Vikings, and
Lions beat the Bears

Swarley · 12-23-2012, 10:12 PM

Hopefully we get flexed just so we can have it all laid out for us before hand.

redskins5044 · 12-23-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Dallas is so beat up on defense and ware got hurt today also. Romo is on fire lately but I agree we control the clock and no TOs and we win by a score

I am going to rest my hat on that in a playoff type of game loser go home, that Shanny can out coach Garrett for the win.

mbedner3420 · 12-23-2012, 10:19 PM

When do we learn if we get flexed?

Swarley · 12-23-2012, 10:23 PM

Word on twitter is that we'll know tonight.

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen
I was told the decision would be made tonight. RT @shepkillion Any idea what time the league will announce flex?

12-23-2012, 08:38 PM	#107
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option Cowboys will pile up a lot of yards. Hopefully we can make a few stops and get a turnover or two.

12-23-2012, 08:45 PM	#109
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,561	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option It worries me how the Cowboys have been making these come from behind moves in the 4th quarter of all these games. I'm used to them blowing the 4th quarter, not making up ground and winning them. Bothersome. We still going to kill it next week though!!! __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Draft winners, not stars. Hail to the Redskins Hail victory Braves on the warpath Block for RG3

12-23-2012, 08:57 PM	#110
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?

12-23-2012, 09:01 PM	#112
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option Answered my own question: TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined. Two Clubs 1.Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). 2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. 3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. 4.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. 5.Strength of victory. 6.Strength of schedule. 7.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. 8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. 9.Best net points in common games. 10.Best net points in all games. 11.Best net touchdowns in all games. 12.Coin toss Sounds like Dallas has us in common games...Gotta win.

12-23-2012, 09:10 PM	#114
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 695	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option Eventually their magic has to run out (cowboys that is). They have had for 3 weeks miracle 4th quarter come from behind wins. Cincy had several chances to put it away. Steelers have a kickoff that might go the distance but they fumble, give up 7, turn the ball over. 14 points on saints. The skins protect the ball, get a couple turnovers, I feel good about it.

12-23-2012, 10:08 PM	#116
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,895	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Seahawks will hold on to beat the 49ers. Here's our updated scenario, things are a lot simpler now because we can't catch the Seahawks if we lose next week. 4 Seed: W over Cowboys Lose to the Cowboys, and have the following happen: 6 Seed: Packers beat the Vikings, and Lions beat the Bears __________________ Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

12-23-2012, 10:12 PM	#117
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 1,035	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option Hopefully we get flexed just so we can have it all laid out for us before hand. __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

12-23-2012, 10:19 PM	#119
mbedner3420 The Starter Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,553	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option When do we learn if we get flexed?

12-23-2012, 10:23 PM	#120
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 1,035	Re: Wild Card Chances as Fall Back Option Word on twitter is that we'll know tonight. Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen I was told the decision would be made tonight. RT @shepkillion Any idea what time the league will announce flex? __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

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