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Old 12-03-2012, 11:02 AM   #241
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Desean is really good. Does seem a tad overrated to me, but yeah, I'd take him here.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:17 AM   #242
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no, but put him at returner and run the endarounds that Banks does and I bet his numbers would go back up.

As for declining the last two years, one was a contract situation, then this year with injuries, and the state of the eagles in general, hard to fault Jackson alone.
It's not just the raw number, it's the YPC and TDs and even the punt returns that you all are gushing over.

DeSean Jackson: Career Stats at NFL.com


Receiving:
2012- 15.6 average per catch
2011- 16.6 average per catch
2010- 22.5 average per catch

Receiving TDs:
2012- 2
2011- 4
2010- 6
2009- 9


Punt Return:
2012- -3.0 (this is a negative number, but he had one punt return this year)
2011- 6.7 average
2010- 11.6 average
2009- 15.2 average


Seems to me he checked out long ago.
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All the talk on Espn this morning is how great Luck is.RG3 needs to have a big game tonight for any chance at rookie of the year,IMO,plus we need to win
Theyre saying Luck has 5 4th qtr comebacks,blah blah blah.Not caring that much about his turnover ratio
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:20 AM   #244
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Quite possible we're seeing the Magic, Jordan, Bird era of QBs.
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It's not just the raw number, it's the YPC and TDs and even the punt returns that you all are gushing over.

DeSean Jackson: Career Stats at NFL.com


Receiving:
2012- 15.6 average per catch
2011- 16.6 average per catch
2010- 22.5 average per catch

Receiving TDs:
2012- 2
2011- 4
2010- 6
2009- 9


Punt Return:
2012- -3.0 (this is a negative number, but he had one punt return this year)
2011- 6.7 average
2010- 11.6 average
2009- 15.2 average


Seems to me he checked out long ago.
Anyone who knows anything about football would know Jackson is a good football player. I don't care about his stats, the guy can play. Is he a great player? No. Probably like a lot of players/coaches in Philly, he would benefit from a change of scenery.
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All the talk on Espn this morning is how great Luck is.RG3 needs to have a big game tonight for any chance at rookie of the year,IMO,plus we need to win
Theyre saying Luck has 5 4th qtr comebacks,blah blah blah.Not caring that much about his turnover ratio
My question is how many of those turnovers were cause by a WR tipping the ball? The main thing is he overcame them somehow to have 5 4th quarter comebacks.
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I agree the D. Jax would be an upgrade over Banks - but that's just not setting the bar very high. I don't think he is an upgrade - for this offense - over Garcon, Morgan or Moss (Okay, maybe Moss - but do you think DJ would come here to be WR3/PR when plenty of other teams (Cleveland, SD, Jax, Seattle) would pay him to be a WR1/2?). We need blocking WR's in this offense and PG and JM fit the bill well. Throw in his injury history and I am just not impressed.

Don't get me wrong, I think Jackson is a good WR - not as good as he thinks he is and not worth what the Eagles paid him. I just don't see him being a good fit here for what they would have to pay him. Again, I think we have cheaper solid quality guys down the depth chart. We have to many other holes to pay him what he would want and to be our slot reciever/PR.
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Re: Around the NFL ... Week 13 edition

Ed Reed of Baltimore Ravens says 'powder puff' football making NFL worse - ESPN

The hit on Sydney Rice wasnt Powder Puff. But I understand where hes coming from.
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My question is how many of those turnovers were cause by a WR tipping the ball? The main thing is he overcame them somehow to have 5 4th quarter comebacks.
He may have a lot of turnovers, but he also has his team in the play-offs. Not denigrating RGIII in any way, my man-crush is full on. At the same time, Luck is no slouch and has been carrying the Colts in the same way RGIII has carried the Skins. A break here or there for either and the records of the two teams could easily be reversed.

Bottom line in this league and, particularly for QB's, is wins. Luck may turn the ball over occasionally, but he wins. Can't take that away from him.

I, for one, would love to see a regularly scheduled Luck v. Griffin Superbowl. Do that, and both make it to the HOF.
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As an aside, can you imagine RGIII with a defense comparable to Seattle's? We would be 12-0.

I deeply envy their PED taking CB's.
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Anyone who knows anything about football would know Jackson is a good football player. I don't care about his stats, the guy can play. Is he a great player? No. Probably like a lot of players/coaches in Philly, he would benefit from a change of scenery.

He's good when he wants to be good. It's amazing to see how good players play when they want something. No way would I ever bring that guy here to this team. This is the type of player that Vinny Ceratto would go get. The guy who wanted to get paid, not the player who would do his best to be the best he could be. DeSean simply isn't that guy and the numbers show that. I mean, the guy quit on the team when he didn't get his contract. Got his contract, and still didn't do squat.

No thanks. I'll pass no matter how "good" he can be.
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As an aside, can you imagine RGIII with a defense comparable to Seattle's? We would be 12-0.

I deeply envy their PED taking CB's.
My Defensive wish list to Santa:

Chicago's Safeties
Seattle's Corners
Cleveland's DT's
Houston's DE's
Id Keep Skins LB's

Then lets roll.
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I agree the D. Jax would be an upgrade over Banks - but that's just not setting the bar very high. I don't think he is an upgrade - for this offense - over Garcon, Morgan or Moss (Okay, maybe Moss - but do you think DJ would come here to be WR3/PR when plenty of other teams (Cleveland, SD, Jax, Seattle) would pay him to be a WR1/2?). We need blocking WR's in this offense and PG and JM fit the bill well. Throw in his injury history and I am just not impressed.

Don't get me wrong, I think Jackson is a good WR - not as good as he thinks he is and not worth what the Eagles paid him. I just don't see him being a good fit here for what they would have to pay him. Again, I think we have cheaper solid quality guys down the depth chart. We have to many other holes to pay him what he would want and to be our slot reciever/PR.
Agreed. I certainly wasn't arguing that we ought to go all Vinny on him and sign him, just that he would do what Banks does, but better. I'm not big on bringing any eagle players in, not worth the stink.
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Philadelphia is worse than they've been in 15 years. They may finish 4-12
They're a lock for 3-13 on a 12-game losing streak.


I was at a 1-year old's birthday party with my kids this weekend and the Eagles fans were doing their stupid E-A-G-L-E-S chant and getting angry at everyone else (Ravens and Redskins fans). It's sad, yet so amusing this year.

C'mon, it was a baby party.

The excuse I got (in my face) when I shouted 31-6 as he was trash-taking the Ravens fan was "Well, the Redskins were so bad for so long they're bound to get lucky once".

Yeah. OK.

These two franchises are going to flip courses for a decade or so. The Eagles are going to be in complete dismantle and rebuild mode. The Skins will be perennial contenders.
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Quite possible we're seeing the Magic, Jordan, Bird era of QBs.
No joke. It is a magical time for young QB's.
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