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Old 12-03-2012, 11:12 AM   #61
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I don't know how true this is coming from the NY Post:

Chiefs linebacker Belcher struggled with head injuries, alcohol and painkillers before he snapped and killed girlfriend: report - NYPOST.com
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:05 PM   #62
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Brady Quinn had maybe his best day ever as an NFL QB on the field yesterday...and yet he easily topped it with his post game presser
I was thinking the same thing when I heard it. Very well spoken by him.
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Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Javon Belcher - KansasCity.com
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #64
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NFL to provide benefits for Jovan Belcher's daughter - NFL Videos


Good to hear that little girl will be taken care of financially. Let's hope her caretaker isn't some leech and steal all her money.





Jovan Belcher's mom begs dying woman to live while on 911 call - ESPN

Heartbreaking. Would be tough for any mother to have to suffer this.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:49 PM   #65
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The weird indirect link back to the redskins that no one seems to remember is Bryan Kehl. He was the backup ilb to Belcher in kc just days before the incident.
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It's harsh to say, and not that this would ever happen, but the best thing for that little girl (who is only three months old and would never know) would be for her to be adopted by loving and devoted stragers and her name changed. She would be better off growing up never knowing what happened to her parents. No matter what suport she gets now from family, knowing that your father murdererd your mother strikes me as impossible to recover from.

The whole thing is so awful.
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I think its horrible they had a tribute in his locker. The dude is a murderer. He has ****ed up his daughters life who has lost both her parents forever. His own mother cannot be rite after seeing this. The coach and the gm. Not to mention all of his girlfriends friends and family. No sympathy whatsoever for this guy only the people he has hurt and traumatized. This is nothing, i repeat, nothing - like Junior Seau. This guy is a coward in every sense of the word.
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interesting take by Tom Jackson this morning...He's more concerned about Cassandra the murdered than girlfriend and her now parentless infant than if Belcher was a "good teamate and all that"...Said to remember Belcher was a murderer.

I tell ya, gotta agree. The man shouldnt be celebrated today at all. Its certainly is tragic
Good for Tom Jackson. So glad you posted this. So true. Ive been bothered all week by the talk about Belcher. The only thing tragic is that he killed someone, traumatized others, and orphaned his little girl. How dare they celebrate or speak of him as anything other than a selfish and cold blooded killer.
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I'm sure it's extremely difficult for his friends and teammates to suddenly just forget everything they shared with him that none of us did
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The only thing tragic is that he killed someone, traumatized others, and orphaned his little girl. How dare they celebrate or speak of him as anything other than a selfish and cold blooded killer.
Because to them he was a friend, a teammate, a family member...someone who mattered to them. Ultimately what he did in the end defines him but to the people who knew him there's no switch to forget all the stuff they loved.

To you, someone who didn't know him, its easy to just define him as a killer because that's all you know of him.
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Because to them he was a friend, a teammate, a family member...someone who mattered to them. Ultimately what he did in the end defines him but to the people who knew him there's no switch to forget all the stuff they loved.

To you, someone who didn't know him, its easy to just define him as a killer because that's all you know of him.
Well said.

It's a tragedy from many different angles.
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Because to them he was a friend, a teammate, a family member...someone who mattered to them. Ultimately what he did in the end defines him but to the people who knew him there's no switch to forget all the stuff they loved.

To you, someone who didn't know him, its easy to just define him as a killer because that's all you know of him.
Very well said.

I'm sick of these mindless babbling morons that talk about him being a coward, a killer, etc., etc. all to win an argument on the internet (you should see the comments section on ESPN.com, ridiculous).

This whole situation is a tragedy for everyone involved. Part of that tragedy is whatever went wrong in the mind of Belcher that drove him to commit such terrible act.

It's just sad situation all around.
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Because to them he was a friend, a teammate, a family member...someone who mattered to them. Ultimately what he did in the end defines him but to the people who knew him there's no switch to forget all the stuff they loved.

To you, someone who didn't know him, its easy to just define him as a killer because that's all you know of him.
Although internally, it might be hard for them to reconcile what their friend and team mate did, having a tribute at his locker is incredibly inappropriate.

If one of your friends from work were secretly a terrorist and strapped c4 to his body, walked on a schoolbus, and blew everyone up, would you hold a memorial for him at work? You knew him as a nice guy, and it would be hard for you to reconcile your friendship with him with his last actions, but out of respect for those he killed and general human decency, you wouldnt memorialize him in any public way.

its understandable that theyre having a hard time coping with Belchers actions and death, but by setting up a tribute at Belchers locker, the Chiefs have shown gross disrespect to his victims family.
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Although internally, it might be hard for them to reconcile what their friend and team mate did, having a tribute at his locker is incredibly inappropriate.

If one of your friends from work were secretly a terrorist and strapped c4 to his body, walked on a schoolbus, and blew everyone up, would you hold a memorial for him at work? You knew him as a nice guy, and it would be hard for you to reconcile your friendship with him with his last actions, but out of respect for those he killed and general human decency, you wouldnt memorialize him in any public way.

its understandable that theyre having a hard time coping with Belchers actions and death, but by setting up a tribute at Belchers locker, the Chiefs have shown gross disrespect to his victims family.
I hadn't heard they had a tribute to him. I'd have to see what "tribute" meant. But I can definitely see how it could be disrespectful. My point is that it isn't just a binary decision. You are what you've done. ALL of what you've done.

BTW...in my opinion equating murdering in the heat of the moment to executing a premeditated terrorist attack that kills dozens of innocent bystanders is a little off. Not that either is "better" but they're not the same thing at all. One takes actual pure evil...the other takes...well whatever it takes in whatever the given circumstance is.
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Although internally, it might be hard for them to reconcile what their friend and team mate did, having a tribute at his locker is incredibly inappropriate.

If one of your friends from work were secretly a terrorist and strapped c4 to his body, walked on a schoolbus, and blew everyone up, would you hold a memorial for him at work? You knew him as a nice guy, and it would be hard for you to reconcile your friendship with him with his last actions, but out of respect for those he killed and general human decency, you wouldnt memorialize him in any public way.

its understandable that theyre having a hard time coping with Belchers actions and death, but by setting up a tribute at Belchers locker, the Chiefs have shown gross disrespect to his victims family.
I think there is a big different between someone being a terrorist and someone having something go wrong in their mind to commit a murder/suicide. And I keep saying that something went wrong with his mind, because I don't think a rational/sane person would do what he did.

If I am not mistaken, both families (Perkins' and Belcher's) are mourning both of their deaths.
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