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Old 12-05-2012, 11:55 AM   #316
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Can anyone find and or post the pick of JPP on the sideline with his helmet sitting on his head where he just looks like he has no clue on what to do to stop Griff. It was at the end of the game but I can't find an image.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:20 PM   #317
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The solution to RGIII getting hit is to have a capable backup who can execute the same offense. Or a close approximation. We're a little short there right now.
Thats like saying the solution to getting in a car accident is to make sure you have a good second car. Thats a horrible plan. The real solution is to drive safely so that you can avoid getting into an accident to begin with.

The solution to RGIII is to do everything you reasonably can to prevent him from taking too many unnecessary big hits. You dont change your offense. You dont tell him not to run. You PROTECT him buy upgrading the offensive line. Otherwise, if RGIII gets hurt and a backup comes in, the backup will just get hit just as much, if not more, than RGIII. Then what do you do when that guy goes down? Fix the problem and you dont need 10 backup QBs who are "close approximations" of RGIII.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:22 PM   #318
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RG3 can help himself too by getting the ball out quicker. That will come with more experience, and part of it is the guy is fearless and isn't afraid to take a hit.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:01 PM   #319
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I mean any idiot can call this offense, but still...fun to look at pictures

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:10 PM   #320
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I mean any idiot can call this offense, but still...fun to look at pictures

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Its like a damn baby design those plays. I think Come'on Man on ESPN should just be renamed Come'on Kyle with Jaws taking us through the horrible job he is doing.


oH we blew the Giants defense mind for the second time this year? nevermind....
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:15 PM   #321
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I mean any idiot can call this offense, but still...fun to look at pictures

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You're being sarcastic right? lol. Please say so..
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:16 PM   #322
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What about at the beginning of game,hell most of the game when we were on offense? Especially first half,when we were on offense,the crowd was especially silent.I commented on it in gameday thread,I dont remember it being that quiet in other games,seemed like there was no excitement in the stands whatsoever.Thats how it came across to me on tv.Of course crowd cheered when we made big plays and stuff.Mainly what im talking about is when team was in huddle {on off} and then go to line,crowd seemed unusually quiet to me,maybe it was just me?
Well, they want it quiet when we're on offense, yes?
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:21 PM   #323
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This will be my only post about this, but basically we're within (most) of the rest of the league, give or take 10 hits. If 10 hits is what determines the longevity of a QB, then strong post to you sir.

I refuse to believe that his "style of play" is what's going to suddenly have him crumbling into a puddle of injury-prone mediocrity. This is also assuming the other guys in the league AREN'T running QBs. If you look at those stats, Luck is going to be out of the league in a year! TOO MANY HITS!!!!!!!! OMGZZ!1!11!
That's the thing, I don't really see RG3's style as the problem i.e. most of the big hits are coming when he drops back into the pocket. Like Matty and others have said he can help himself by getting rid of the ball quicker, but then I think we probably see fewer completions and more turnovers. I think it really comes down to protection, that's what I'm saying.

Take Big Ben for example. He's had lousy protection through most of his career and everyone pointed to his toughness (and it doesn't hurt that he's a huge dude), but now the injuries are lasting longer and he's not playing at the same level. Does this make sense?

The think the concern for RG3, which is pretty much unanimous outside this board btw, is legit.
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That's the thing, I don't really see RG3's style as the problem i.e. most of the big hits are coming when he drops back into the pocket. Like Matty and others have said he can help himself by getting rid of the ball quicker, but then I think we probably see fewer completions and more turnovers. I think it really comes down to protection, that's what I'm saying.

Take Big Ben for example. He's had lousy protection through most of his career and everyone pointed to his toughness (and it doesn't hurt that he's a huge dude), but now the injuries are lasting longer and he's not playing at the same level. Does this make sense?

The think the concern for RG3, which is pretty much unanimous outside this board btw, is legit.
Every QB gets hit.. RG3 holds the ball and looks to run when the play breaks down or doesn't go his way. It's been going on all year. It's going to happen next year, and many more after that..

Talking about what "might happen" is like talking about the end of the world on Jan. 1st.
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I mean any idiot can call this offense, but still...fun to look at pictures

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Beautiful stuff.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:18 PM   #327
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With all the hype that RG3 is getting, and it's well deserved, I'm wondering if this type of offense we're running can work long term. Steve Young asked him that after the game and RG3 thought so. I'm not sure it is, and as time goes on I hope he can develop into the passer that Young became. I just don't think he can last with the pounding he takes. I will say this, he's a lot tougher than I ever thought he was.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:21 PM   #328
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I mean why not? EVERY TEAM has seen it this year and if you can't figure it out by now, it's going to take a while.
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Over time I think he can develop into a more pure pocket passer just fine. He's just too talented and works too damn hard not to. But while he's young and is such a big time threat with his legs a coach would be a real idiot to not take advantage of his skills.
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Over time I think he can develop into a more pure pocket passer just fine. He's just too talented and works too damn hard not to. But while he's young and is such a big time threat with his legs a coach would be a real idiot to not take advantage of his skills.
Agreed. I would add that he seems to grow into the pocket passer role a bit more with each passing week.
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