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Old 12-05-2012, 02:39 PM   #331
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Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

Not only that, if you look where his accuracy is compared to his peers, it's off the charts. I know people say he throws short passes, but his accuracy on intermediate and long is WAY up there too.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:41 PM   #332
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Over time I think he can develop into a more pure pocket passer just fine. He's just too talented and works too damn hard not to. But while he's young and is such a big time threat with his legs a coach would be a real idiot to not take advantage of his skills.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:58 PM   #333
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Over time I think he can develop into a more pure pocket passer just fine. He's just too talented and works too damn hard not to. But while he's young and is such a big time threat with his legs a coach would be a real idiot to not take advantage of his skills.
I agree. I also think our O-line has a lot to do with it. We're quick and light and built to move off the line quickly, but we're not built to sit back and protect a pocket passer. I think sitting in the pocket all day would be much more dangerous for RG given our current setup.

That being said, I would like to see us keep adding o-linemen. IMO we can never have enough. I even think we should add to the o-line before the defense. We might have to keep winning games 41-34, but at least we'll be protecting our most valuable asset.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:01 PM   #334
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i think RT is really all we need. i say invest in that and when (BIG IF) the time comes that RG3 starts becoming a pure pocket guy, at least that RT is there.

i think what some people are overlooking with the read/option is how 1) AMAZINg rg3 is with his ball fakes and 2) just how damn accurate he is. we havent seen a QB with his accuracy/speed running this yet. might just be a new era in the nfl.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:06 PM   #335
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I hear this "new era" or "changing the game" stuff and I don't know. I tend to think that we're making an offense that really shouldn't work actually work only because of the singular talents that RGIII has. There are about 5 plays a game that are the plays that keep this offense moving...most of them involve him doing something only he can do. The league has never seen speed at the position like him, even Vick wasn't Olympic hurdler speed.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:25 PM   #336
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I mean any idiot can call this offense, but still...fun to look at pictures

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I mean why not? EVERY TEAM has seen it this year and if you can't figure it out by now, it's going to take a while.
It is as long as he is a threat to run the ball. If we're going to stick with this offense I think we need to go out and get a back up that can run it. Possibly Mike Vick.
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Over time I think he can develop into a more pure pocket passer just fine. He's just too talented and works too damn hard not to. But while he's young and is such a big time threat with his legs a coach would be a real idiot to not take advantage of his skills.
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I agree. He's been a lot better about getting down too.
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Not only that, if you look where his accuracy is compared to his peers, it's off the charts. I know people say he throws short passes, but his accuracy on intermediate and long is WAY up there too.
He's been pretty solid on the mid range stuff. Only 4 picks in 325 attempts as a 22 year old rookie. I know we don't run the most aggressive passing attack but still, that's just off the charts.
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He's been pretty solid on the mid range stuff. Only 4 picks in 325 attempts as a 22 year old rookie. I know we don't run the most aggressive passing attack but still, that's just off the charts.
You gotta define aggressive, he is averaging like 8.7 yards per attempt and he like leading the league with completions over 20 yards. So we are aggressively getting the ball downfield but not aggressive in just in throwing the ball everydown.
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why run something ultra aggressive when were top 5 (maybe top 7? im lazy)? dont fix what isnt broeken.
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Seem to be a lot of firsts' around here for the last few weeks, might as well keep it going!!

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Our Defense has been head shoulders better the second half the season vs the first 6 games. Football outsiders had ranked like 30th or 29th at the beginning of the season and its slowly climbed towards the middle of the pack since. Our pass rush struggles and safety play is still our biggest weakness
Absolutely. I meant that we miss playmakers at some positions, but I think coaching was great on the defensive side of the ball too.
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I hear this "new era" or "changing the game" stuff and I don't know. I tend to think that we're making an offense that really shouldn't work actually work only because of the singular talents that RGIII has. There are about 5 plays a game that are the plays that keep this offense moving...most of them involve him doing something only he can do. The league has never seen speed at the position like him, even Vick wasn't Olympic hurdler speed.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:01 PM   #345
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So this past off-season, and seasons past, the argument was "Mike and Kyle are so stubborn. They'll never adjust their offense to the QB's talents"

So what's the reasoning now?
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