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Old 12-07-2012, 01:37 PM   #421
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You can't just say "we need sacks" or "we need better coverage". At this point in the season, your coverage unit is what is, and your pressure is what it is. What you need is a coach that understands what you do, how you do it, what your opponent is, and how they do it, then maximize your skills to minimize their points.

You say the Giants beat themselves, and I wholeheartedly agree. BUT Why did they beat themselves? Because our defense kept them from executing what they normally do, and made them do it repeatedly, and they didn't.

We are not going to be a shut down corner style team this year ever. We aren't going to win by pure blitz pressure, because our corners don't stand up to that. We will win by forcing the opponents to play mistake free, and not give up quick scores. If we do that, we win.
1) I know I can't ask for that at this point of the season. All I'm saying basically and the root of all this is that this defense is not trust worthy and will not get us far.

2) you agree with me that the giants beat themselves; yet you want me to explain why..? Because the Giants were driving on us so well, (pass, run, pass, run..) and then they would get into the redzone and either over throw an open receiver causing a field goal, Eli would feel pressure (when there wasn't any) and dump it off to his receiver underneath) or the giants would throw it to an open receiver on 3rd and long and the receiver would miss the conversion by a toe (the nicks play along the sideline), the off the finger plays to cruz either by drop or over thrown. The holding call on the OL when Bennett had a would have been first down. Like I said the Giants had a little play here and a little play there where they stopped their drive or their drive was the difference between 7 and 3. (also their very good kicker this year missed a very makeable 45 yarder; he makes it, Giants probably win that game.

3) I completely agree with you. What I'm saying is this defense isn't a super bowl caliber winning defense. Why did I say Super Bowl? Because I whole heartily think---yes me the 'negative' one here on this board, think that this team is getting hot right now at the right time (see GB, NYG's of the past 2 super bowl years,) and thats huge to get to the playoffs. We have an offense which everyone just has no idea how to stop with an MVP caliber player right now--we are the team no one wants to play. When I look at the playoff eligible teams; I don't see one team that I honestly don't think we can't beat. This team reminds me of the 08 Cardinals. Great offense. Bend but don't break defense, which can't get much pressure and whose CBs suck. But like that cardinals team, they lost in the super bowl to a team with a better offense (and defense) I have that bad bad feeling that if the skins were to make a playoff run, and beat out the NFC, which is very very possible IMO, I think we'd play New England and lose because of my despise of that team, and the fact that that offense is nearly impossible to stop with this secondary (last year we hung with them with Orakpo and Carriker--whom both didn't get a single sack, but some pressure) The only team in the NFC playoff hunt whom I think would give us the hardest game would be Green Bay, because of Aaron Rodgers and his WR core on our secondary..
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:20 PM   #422
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if you thought the giants LOST that one, which ones have we actually won then? the eagles game because we won by a bunch of points? you could easily say, well the eagles lost it because of injuries.

football (and sports in general) is a game of give-and-take, it wasnt the fact that the giants just played the shittiest game ever. hell, people are saying the steelers dominated us and are forgetting we had about 12900192380239 dropped passes.
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did the giants miss opportunities? sure, but so did we.

remember that fumble in the red zone? thats at LEAST three.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:25 PM   #424
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guess i dont understand why fans dont want to give credit to their own team.

Giants beat themselves? that sounds like a giants fan to me.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:39 PM   #425
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It's almost like the mindset of the fanbase is "We don't deserve this".

Well, **** that! Our team has come a long way and deserves credit.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:07 PM   #426
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if you thought the giants LOST that one, which ones have we actually won then? the eagles game because we won by a bunch of points? you could easily say, well the eagles lost it because of injuries.

football (and sports in general) is a game of give-and-take, it wasnt the fact that the giants just played the shittiest game ever. hell, people are saying the steelers dominated us and are forgetting we had about 12900192380239 dropped passes.

That's the way football is. In the first game against the NYG back in week 7, the Redskins had 4 turnovers that contributed more to the Giants win than that 77 yard TD strike from Eli Manning to Victor Cruz did. The NYG had a lot of penalties this last game but turnovers and penalties are a part of the game of football.
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Saying a team beat itself always seems like a lame excuse to me.

At the end of the day the Giants didn't play well enough to win while the Skins did.
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guess i dont understand why fans dont want to give credit to their own team.

Giants beat themselves? that sounds like a giants fan to me.
sounds like an idiot that can't read to me
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ever since the first giants game, watching griff march us down cool/calm/collected, and putting us ahead in the final minutes - it's an amazing feeling to know he's clutch. not only is his physical talent off the charts, but he's also mentally sound.

can't say enough about him, still pinching myself every so often. httr!
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Although your 'pinch me' comment reminded me of the scene in the bar from Airplane.
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pretty sure i would have done the same thing. sorry willy
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The dude was literally pulling his leg out of his socket. Did that guy get fined too? My phone is blocking the link.
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did the giants miss opportunities? sure, but so did we.

remember that fumble in the red zone? thats at LEAST three.
And RG3 not seeing a wide open Moss in the 4th quarter would have been another 7. Btw...I think you're off by 1 on the dropped passes in the Steelers game. Pretty sure there was 1 more.
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