Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

JoeRedskin · 12-07-2012, 12:54 PM

I have admired KS's work for some time - No, he's not wunderkind, but he clearly "gets it". The part I particularly liked in the article was the emphasis on his "command" of the offensive team. You look at the guy and think "Man, he's just a kid ... what vet coach is really going to respect him." or "Sure, players like him 'cause he's practically in their peer group - but, do they respect him when he calls them out ... or is it just seen as a temper tantrum."

I heard somewhere that one of Morris' downfalls as a head coach was that he was the players' pal as an assistant/position coach and that, when he became head coach, players weren't receptive to the sterner/bottom-line mentality that you have to have as the ultimate authority. I worry that, if KS were to become HC here, there may be that effect. Not sure though.

Ultimately, I think KS is going to make somebody a helluva head coach. It might be another 5-10 years, but he will win a SB as a HC.

Hog1 · 12-07-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I have admired KS's work for some time - No, he's not wunderkind, but he clearly "gets it". The part I particularly liked in the article was the emphasis on his "command" of the offensive team. You look at the guy and think "Man, he's just a kid ... what vet coach is really going to respect him." or "Sure, players like him 'cause he's practically in their peer group - but, do they respect him when he calls them out ... or is it just seen as a temper tantrum."

I heard somewhere that one of Morris' downfalls as a head coach was that he was the players' pal as an assistant/position coach and that, when he became head coach, players weren't receptive to the sterner/bottom-line mentality that you have to have as the ultimate authority. I worry that, if KS were to become HC here, there may be that effect. Not sure though.

Ultimately, I think KS is going to make somebody a helluva head coach. It might be another 5-10 years, but he will win a SB as a HC.

It IS a difficult transition to be promoted and supervise the group you once worked with......
But as you say......somewhere

CRedskinsRule · 12-07-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's a good article in the WaPo about Kyle

Washington Redskins’ Kyle Shanahan: A lifetime of proving he belongs - The Washington Post

That's an excellent telling of Kyle's story. I really hope that he and Griffin grow together for several years.

mredskins · 12-07-2012, 02:10 PM

Any news on Suggs?

RobH4413 · 12-07-2012, 02:11 PM

Pretty sure he is not going to be able to play.

He also appears to be getting into some hot water elsewhere.

Terrell Suggs Was Forced to Give Several Firearms to Police After an Alleged Domestic Dispute Recently | Complex

EDIT: I know they are calling him a game time decision- but from what I've heard it's pretty unlikely that he will paly.

RedskinRat · 12-07-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Ultimately, I think KS is going to make somebody a helluva head coach. It might be another 5-10 years, but he will win a SB as a HC.

I hope he takes over from Mike. I think the Redskins would be set for a few decades that way.

CRedskinsRule · 12-07-2012, 02:35 PM

I would be shocked if Suggs didn't paly, but then again, I think everyone ought to try it once in a while

GridIron26 · 12-07-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I hope he takes over from Mike. I think the Redskins would be set for a few decades that way.

Me too, I got the feeling that this is the plan Snyder and FO have already made. By the way great articles, SS.

12thMan · 12-07-2012, 03:02 PM

I think Suggs will play. He sounded pretty confident.

12thMan · 12-07-2012, 03:11 PM

JLC just said he's listed as questionable and thinks he'll play.

RobH4413 · 12-07-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

JLC just said he's listed as questionable and thinks he'll play.

damn... he's a game changer.

donofriose · 12-07-2012, 03:46 PM

Ravens 23rd in the NFL allowing 126 yards a game, Washington first with 167 yards a game, Redskins should obviously keep that ball by running the ball throughout the entire game. Similar to what the Giants did to us the first half. I am hoping to see some 8 minute drives.

calia · 12-07-2012, 03:47 PM

All my Ravens fans friends seem 100% convinced that Suggs will play. Notably, a few are worried about it -- that he may play and kill himself trying to catch RGIII. But I bet he does play -- with Big ben coming back this week for the Steelers, the Ravens will feel added pressure to bring their A game this week to keep on track.

I think they're crazy to play him. Even when Lewis comes back, he won't be 100%. So they will need Suggs if they're going to make a deep run in the post-season. With another week's rest, that seems more likely.

But if he plays, he plays, and I would rather he does so that there will be no bitching about injuries changing the outcome when we FedExterminate them.

CultBrennan59 · 12-07-2012, 04:10 PM

53Fan · 12-07-2012, 04:10 PM

Suggs said they have a saying around there,"If you're breathing you can play." How well is another question. He definitely won't be 100%.

12-07-2012, 12:54 PM	#121
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,219	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? I have admired KS's work for some time - No, he's not wunderkind, but he clearly "gets it". The part I particularly liked in the article was the emphasis on his "command" of the offensive team. You look at the guy and think "Man, he's just a kid ... what vet coach is really going to respect him." or "Sure, players like him 'cause he's practically in their peer group - but, do they respect him when he calls them out ... or is it just seen as a temper tantrum." I heard somewhere that one of Morris' downfalls as a head coach was that he was the players' pal as an assistant/position coach and that, when he became head coach, players weren't receptive to the sterner/bottom-line mentality that you have to have as the ultimate authority. I worry that, if KS were to become HC here, there may be that effect. Not sure though. Ultimately, I think KS is going to make somebody a helluva head coach. It might be another 5-10 years, but he will win a SB as a HC. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

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12-07-2012, 02:11 PM	#125
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 28 Posts: 2,387	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? Pretty sure he is not going to be able to play. He also appears to be getting into some hot water elsewhere. Terrell Suggs Was Forced to Give Several Firearms to Police After an Alleged Domestic Dispute Recently \| Complex EDIT: I know they are calling him a game time decision- but from what I've heard it's pretty unlikely that he will paly. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

12-07-2012, 02:35 PM	#127
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 11,020	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? I would be shocked if Suggs didn't paly, but then again, I think everyone ought to try it once in a while

12-07-2012, 03:02 PM	#129
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,366	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? I think Suggs will play. He sounded pretty confident.

12-07-2012, 03:11 PM	#130
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,366	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? JLC just said he's listed as questionable and thinks he'll play.

12-07-2012, 03:46 PM	#132
donofriose Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 719	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? Ravens 23rd in the NFL allowing 126 yards a game, Washington first with 167 yards a game, Redskins should obviously keep that ball by running the ball throughout the entire game. Similar to what the Giants did to us the first half. I am hoping to see some 8 minute drives.

12-07-2012, 03:47 PM	#133
calia Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 45 Posts: 392	Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre? All my Ravens fans friends seem 100% convinced that Suggs will play. Notably, a few are worried about it -- that he may play and kill himself trying to catch RGIII. But I bet he does play -- with Big ben coming back this week for the Steelers, the Ravens will feel added pressure to bring their A game this week to keep on track. I think they're crazy to play him. Even when Lewis comes back, he won't be 100%. So they will need Suggs if they're going to make a deep run in the post-season. With another week's rest, that seems more likely. But if he plays, he plays, and I would rather he does so that there will be no bitching about injuries changing the outcome when we FedExterminate them.

12-07-2012, 04:10 PM	#134
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