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Old 12-05-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
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Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

4 weeks ago, I think we all would have looked at this game and been worrying about Ravens feasting on our bones. We were coming off two losses to the Steelers and Carolina. The team looked disjointed, the coach talked about evaluation for future years. Now, who isn't secretly hoping for a scalping of the northern neighbors? Who doesn't want to see Garcon turn up a gear as he slices through their secondary?

And it's possible. AccuScore, which hasn't picked us in along time, has us at 51 to 49%. We are favored by 2pts (not much considering we are home). Terrell Suggs is a game time decision, and Ray Lewis is out. There defense has allowed 372 yds/game, and ours is at 399. Our offense averages 384, theirs is 350.

Of course we lost Cedric Griffin, London Fletcher has said repeatedly how sore he is. We saw a few early drops and Morris has fumbled 3 times in the last 6 games.

Playoff wise, we certainly need every win. If Giants or Seahawks falter at all, we need to be able to step in and not have lost our positioning, because of a bad game. The Ravens are definitely trying to straighten out there ship and make a push for the post season.

Leaderboard:
Baltimore
Passing: Flacco - 252-426, 3038 yds, 15 tds
Rushing: Rice - 198 car, 872 yds, 8 tds
Receiving: Smith - 42 rec, 732 yds, 7 tds

Washington Leaders
Passing: Griffin III - 218-325, 2660 yds, 17 tds
Rushing: Morris - 230 car, 1106 yds, 6 tds
Receiving: Moss - 29 rec, 416 yds, 7 tds

My one question: do we focus on stopping Rice and force Flacco to win, or play not to give up the big plays and let our defense hold serve against the run?
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:58 PM   #2
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

^To your question: I say we take Rice out of the game. Never let the other team's best player beat you. Force Flacco to win it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:59 PM   #3
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

Give them the same business we gave Eli...who is a better QB, with better options.
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

ravens are ranked in the bottom third in the league in EVERY stat but scoring.

hang onto the ball, it's a win. that simple.
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We HAVE to generate QB pressure. This needs to be the defensive mantra from here on out. QB or bust.
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

ive been pleased to see how creative haslett has gotten scheme-wise lately. maybe its just in my head, but he seems to understand the flow of the game and started to implement more creative blitzes.
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

Stop Rice, take away the deep ball and make Flacco beat us with a dink and dunk.

With that said, don't think we stop Rice and Flacco is such a hot/cold QB that, if he is on, he can beat you dinking and dunking. If he is not, he will make unforced errors.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:13 PM   #8
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

I think stop Rice, but our defense is getting an assist from our offense. Our offense is indirectly causing pressure the other team's offenses to abandon gameplan and have to throw the ball to keep up. Our best defense at this point is an aggressive offense. So concentrate on Rice and be aggressive on offense when we have the ball.
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I think we have to force the Ravens to play from behind. As soon as this happens, Cam Cameron forgets that he has a Pro Bowl RB and passes like crazy. So I say we need to keep Torrey Smith and Boldin in check. I think we have a good enough of a run defense that we may not need to put 8 men in the box to stop the run. But we can't let Smith (or Jacoby Jones) beat us deep. Speaking of Jones, we can't let him take one to the house on a KR or PR. In the end, our best defense will be a steady scoring by the offense.
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The ravens are a pass first team with an avg qb. Honestly they really don't scare anyone anymore, they defense is old and not great( actually it's bad) and I believe Robert will continue his streak of 0 Ints.

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The ravens are a pass first team with an avg qb. Honestly they really don't scare anyone anymore, they defense is old and not great( actually it's bad) and I believe Robert will continue his streak of 0 Ints.

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That's actually the part that worries me, even though I agree that flacco isn't great by any means. I still don't understand why the giants didn't throw the ball more against our Swiss cheese defense.

In other news - which Beltway are we brawling over? 495 or 695?
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

Good thread here.
Since I work around 80% Raven fans every 4 years I get pounded with it. Have the Redskins ever won against the Ravens? I remember the pitiful last time. They came out physical first thing and demanded submission.....and got it for the most part... but we played them at M&T last time. 12th man needs to demand submission here this time....get loud for the skins foremost. Alot of energy transmits to players. I think if they know you want it ,they'll get it for you... Seems to work for the Ravens at M&T because they're terrible away. Fed Ex isn't really away for them though. Steelers have the blueprint for defense. Good rush will shake Flacco. Tight coverage fustrates Boldin and Torey. Keep a spy close to stop that little f$#@! diddle diddle in the middle shit and the RG3 and company power boost will take care of the rest. Game over. Lights out! The only thing that scares me is Cameron is still trying his best to prove they have a pass attack. We're weak defending it. We need to keep time of possesion on our side like we did against NO. Morris needs to play like after he fumbled the ball against NY. Man I hope we get this one....This one's for the fans on the northern front. We need some respect again. Go Skins!!!
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

As bad as the redskins pass defense is, the run defense is really good (4th in the league I believe). The defense has to bottle up Ray Rice and force him into one of those 20-25 carries, 65-75 yard days which would be really damn good. Key to the game: Turnovers, the Ravens have turned the ball over 2+ times only 4 time this season. 3 of them were their only losses and the only win was 9-6 against KC.
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That's actually the part that worries me, even though I agree that flacco isn't great by any means. I still don't understand why the giants didn't throw the ball more against our Swiss cheese defense.

In other news - which Beltway are we brawling over? 495 or 695?
it's 695 vs 495/95
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Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?

I here you dude, Rice isn't the only one now. Pierce looked good last week against Steelers. Pierce got some good run time. Ravens will start looking for home field advantage and this win is important for that reason. They seemed to save Rice some last week. Probably looking to save him some for post season. More got put on Pitta and the other dude #12 (punt return man). Ravens pass attack and get out ahead with points will be first against us. They know our offense scores now. If they accomplish this it'll be hard to recover against there pass defense for sure. Key will be to shake Flacco...Thats what the Steelers manage to do.

We keep saying our offense makes up for our defense, but a win this time will require a stout pass and run defense. Flacco's been honing his craft and Hall is on crutches I heard....not good. We don't have that "next man up"

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