Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-12-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I agree for compassion with anybody in that situation. But I hope he goes to jail for a long time. 2nd DUI? He clearly isnt perfect, or smart for that matter.

According to this site, the range of punishment is 2-20 years, although probation is an option as long as the the convict serves 120 days in jail.

Intoxication Manslaughter in Texas, Jail Time, Fine, and Punishment

This Brents 2nd offense, and a judge could choose to make an example out of him. However, i would imagine his contrition, the fact that the victim was his best friend, and victims family seems to have forgiven him could make a judge more likely to show some leniency.

Chico23231 · 12-12-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to this site, the range of punishment is 2-20 years, although probation is an option as long as the the convict serves 120 days in jail.

Intoxication Manslaughter in Texas, Jail Time, Fine, and Punishment

This Brents 2nd offense, and a judge could choose to make an example out of him. However, i would imagine his contrition, the fact that the victim was his best friend, and victims family seems to have forgiven him could make a judge more likely to show some leniency.

lets hope so, he deserves a 3rd shot. After all we are not perfect, we all make these type of mistakes. Maybe next time its one of your family members or me, he gets a do over cause its his bestie. It makes sense.

53Fan · 12-12-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

It takes a big person to forgive or at least have some empathy in a situation like this, sadly most folks aren't up to the task.

First off..Excellent post FRPLG.
I agree Matty. Having empathy for someone doesn't mean you condone what they've done. Some seem to take it that way. We've all made mistakes.....a lot of us were fortunate enough to not have the same consequences for our mistakes as others.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-12-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

lets hope so, he deserves a 3rd shot. After all we are not perfect, we all make these type of mistakes. Maybe next time its one of your family members or me, he gets a do over cause its his bestie. It makes sense.

So if someone commits a crime twice, they should be locked up forever? You do realize that murderers, rapists and pedophiles get out of prison in only a few years all the time. We should let more of them out so that we can keep people convicted of DWIs behind bars forever?

Based on limited available evidence, Brent is truly remorseful for his actions. I doubt he will ever drink and drive again. I mean, if you were driving drunk and killed your best friend in the whole world, probably watched him die, would you drink and drive again?

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-12-2012, 03:58 PM

Regardless of whether RGIII or Cousins plays, we're going to find out alot about this team on Sunday. In years past, this would be a "trap game" where we played down to the level of the opponent. I shouldnt even say years past, becuase we played down to Carolina and lost to them. Good teams beat up the bad teams. Cleaveland and Philly arent horrible, but they arent good either. If we are a good team, we'll beat both of them fairly easily.

punch it in · 12-12-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I also think there is this prevailing mentality that things are black and white. Right and wrong. Things cant be in the middle. Why can't he be wrong for his actions but someone we can have empathy for?

In the world of quick news flashes, opinionated discourse and negativity, constructive discourse is lost. I think we see a reflection of that, at times, here.

Totallt agree with this. Happens all the time. There are always varying degrees to everything. Your either good or bad, your either a hater or an apologist. Too black and white.

punch it in · 12-12-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

He probably won't due much jail time, will more than likely plea to lesser charge. He can afford a good lawyer who can plea it down. His real punishment is going to living with killing his friend, because of something so stupid by not calling a cab.

Totally agree with the real punishment thing, but if the judge wants to make an example its going to be with a dude who has done it twice.

hooskins · 12-12-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Regardless of whether RGIII or Cousins plays, we're going to find out alot about this team on Sunday. In years past, this would be a "trap game" where we played down to the level of the opponent. I shouldnt even say years past, becuase we played down to Carolina and lost to them. Good teams beat up the bad teams. Cleaveland and Philly arent horrible, but they arent good either. If we are a good team, we'll beat both of them fairly easily.

Wrong thread lol?

Chico23231 · 12-12-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So if someone commits a crime twice, they should be locked up forever? You do realize that murderers, rapists and pedophiles get out of prison in only a few years all the time. We should let more of them out so that we can keep people convicted of DWIs behind bars forever?

Based on limited available evidence, Brent is truly remorseful for his actions. I doubt he will ever drink and drive again. I mean, if you were driving drunk and killed your best friend in the whole world, probably watched him die, would you drink and drive again?

Everything i highlighted is bullsh*t. ive never read more bs in my life. Please just continue.

Ive worked in the court system for about 4 years. I have family members working with CAs.

punch it in · 12-12-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Everything i highlighted is bullsh*t. ive never read more bs in my life. Please just continue.

Ive worked in the court system for about 4 years. I have family members working with CAs.

My friend, a former police officer, just did a 5 year stint for Drunk driving - forget the exact charge. He did not kill anyone but there were people that got hurt. I was under the impression that in alot of states - drug possession and dui carried as much time as did rape or certain degrees of pedophilia?

DynamiteRave · 12-12-2012, 05:00 PM

He's got a drinking problem. I wouldn't throw the book at him but he absolutely needs to be REQUIRED to be in rehab.

firstdown · 12-12-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Regardless of whether RGIII or Cousins plays, we're going to find out alot about this team on Sunday. In years past, this would be a "trap game" where we played down to the level of the opponent. I shouldnt even say years past, becuase we played down to Carolina and lost to them. Good teams beat up the bad teams. Cleaveland and Philly arent horrible, but they arent good either. If we are a good team, we'll beat both of them fairly easily.

And then we can all have a few more drinks without driving.

firstdown · 12-12-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

lets hope so, he deserves a 3rd shot. After all we are not perfect, we all make these type of mistakes. Maybe next time its one of your family members or me, he gets a do over cause its his bestie. It makes sense.

I don't have a problem with them throwing the book at him for his third DUI I have a problem with them charging him with killing Brown. He got in the car on his own knowing Brent had been drinking and was drunk. That's what I have a problem with.

DynamiteRave · 12-12-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't have a problem with them throwing the book at him for his third DUI I have a problem with them charging him with killing Brown. He got in the car on his own knowing Brent had been drinking and was drunk. That's what I have a problem with.

Its involuntary manslaughter, not murder. So that's a lesser charge. Someone died, there has to be a charge for that. You can't pick and choose what to charge someone for.

Everyone knows the risks of getting into a car with a drunk driver. Brown paid the ultimate price for his decision. Brent needs to pay his.

Btw, that doesn't mean lock him up forever, or maybe not even locking him up at all, but someone died that night, there has to be some sort of punishment for that. Plenty of people die accidentally everyday. This case is no different.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-12-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Everything i highlighted is bullsh*t. ive never read more bs in my life. Please just continue.

Ive worked in the court system for about 4 years. I have family members working with CAs.

Every word in your post was bs, which is why i posted that. I think you realize i was being sarcastic and pointing out the sheer stupidity of your assertion that someone who commits intoxicated manslaughter should be in prision for life.

12-12-2012, 03:58 PM	#125
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,813	Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter Regardless of whether RGIII or Cousins plays, we're going to find out alot about this team on Sunday. In years past, this would be a "trap game" where we played down to the level of the opponent. I shouldnt even say years past, becuase we played down to Carolina and lost to them. Good teams beat up the bad teams. Cleaveland and Philly arent horrible, but they arent good either. If we are a good team, we'll beat both of them fairly easily. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

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DynamiteRave Franchise Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 26 Posts: 9,868	Re: Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter He's got a drinking problem. I wouldn't throw the book at him but he absolutely needs to be REQUIRED to be in rehab. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I'm a chick, damnit.

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