Ravens at Redskins Post Game Thread (RG3 MRI Result-Sprained Knee)

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You think leading the league in penalties is "humming along just fine"? Sure, it is when you are winning. How about that stretch when we played...


Giants
Steelers
Panthers

...yeah...

Your rite our offense sucks. Were lucky to be where were at. Because lucky bounces (like the one in the first quarter of sundays game for instance - never ever go the other way). Come on man!

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

What? That's the point. If we're dropping 30 and the other team drops 31. What does that mean? Not only that the defense blows but the little things on the offensive side of the ball count as well.

You said that scoring 30 doesnt matter if the other teams score a lot on us. I say scoring 30 matters regardless of whether the defense sucks or not. A good offense will bring more wins than a bad one. So yes, scoring 30 matters, even if you lose some while doing so.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Your rite our offense sucks. Were lucky to be where were at. Because lucky bounces (like the one in the first quarter of sundays game for instance - never ever go the other way). Come on man!

I don't think he went that far..

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Originally Posted by Skinzman

That can be said for a fair amount of teams actually. Plus, we are a couple of bounces or a controlling of a temper or two from being 9-4. The replacement refs make a good call and we are tied with Seattle. That entire argument can go both ways and doesnt prove much of anything. You are what your record says you are.

You are clearly the only other person on here rite now who is not half in the bag. Lmao.

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I consider being ranked in the top 1-3 of almost every offensive category and 7 in points scored HUMMING along - yes. Absolutely. Also you do realize that the defense is responsible for some flags too rite? After 20 year of almost pure unadulterated trash on offense we are suddenly one of the best youngest and brightest offenses in the league.

[JoeRedskin]

Well ... 3rd down conversions are about sustaining drives and eating clock.

Don't get me wrong... I love the quick strike nature of our offense. At the same time a long drive or three keeps our D off the field and that's got to be a good thing.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I don't think he went that far..

Sometimes I don't even know why I bother. They take something you say, twist it into something it's not and completely miss the point.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Let's be honest here. We are 2 lucky fumbles away from being 5-8 right now. How often are you going to have a ball bounce like it did to Morgan for a score? Six more inches on the Paul recovery and the Ravens seal that game. Luck has played a huge part in use being 7-6. Mind you, skill, talent, and coaching put them in the position to be here.

We've had a few bounces go against us as well. Those things tend to even themselves out so no I don't think luck has played a huge part in our record.

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Sometimes I don't even know why I bother. They take something you say, twist it into something it's not and completely miss the point.

So you did not say our offense is not humming along?
Just like this morning you didnt say that we were all giving up except for you.
Just like you didnt say you cant see the sun set on the east coast?
I suppose you didnt say we are lucky to be 7-6 either?
Im seeing a pattern here.
Nobody is twisting anything. I asked why all this negativity about our offense when we are in the midst of a four game win streak against big time opponents and our offense is one of the top in the league? Have third and longs been an issue? Sure. Is it losing games for us and do you need to harp on it all day? No.
Edit: it is your rite to do so in an open forum but you should know its going to draw rebuttle rite?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Everyday base in the NFL can bring some negative out of all o the countless stats and complain.

We are 7-6. Period. We do have a path to win the division.

We win our final three. The Giants win this week against Atlanta, lose at Baltimore, and beat Philly. Bang NFC east crown. 3-6 to that. That would be amazing. All of the bad things we do wrong I could care less about right now. As long as we keep winning I am happy.

10-6 I believe will also get the Giants in as they or us or someone else will jump the Bears. They are on a downward spiral and I believe will finish with either a 10-6 record or worse. The Pack will beat them whenever they play them I the coming weeks.

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Two weeks ago i thought a wildcard was out of the question. Thank you Chi-town.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who gives a damn about stats? Would you rather have a team be 50% on 3rd down but average 17 points? The bottom line is the offense is scoring enough points to win games. 31 points yesterday should win most games!!! I think the issue with 3rd down is when teams know when we have to pass then that's the weakness. It's a combination of the line, RG3 feeling comfortable letting plays develop/not wanting to take off running, and the wr's hanging on the the ball. We have to remember that we have a 22 year old rookie playing QB. As time goes on he will develop into a better passer. His footwork in the pocket is a little off but that will improve. He's a gym rat. But again, look at this offense from last year to this year. It's night and day.But I agee, Kyle need to ditch the pitch!

I wish i could be this elegant with my words. This is exactly what i am having such a difficult time saying so thank you Skinsfan69.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well ... 3rd down conversions are about sustaining drives and eating clock.

Don't get me wrong... I love the quick strike nature of our offense. At the same time a long drive or three keeps our D off the field and that's got to be a good thing.

This.

...and really, is there any need to bash the defense at this point? We know they are shitty, and we knew that the moment we lost 4 starters on the squad. Nothing else to say about the defense or Haslett except they're doing the best they can with what they have to work with. That ship will get corrected in the off-season.


Going back to the penalties, the more I think about it the more I think this is the bigger issue at hand with our inconsistency. I wonder what the correlation between teams with the.....**** it, I'll DO IT LIVE MYSELF.


Teams 3rd down conversion from best to worst.

2012 NFL Team Downs Stats - National Football League - ESPN


Teams from most to least panalties.

2012 NFL Team Downs Stats - National Football League - ESPN


Wanted to see if there was a correlation between a teams penalties and their third down conversions. Probably inconclusive data here as I imagine that it depends on when those penalties were called and what side of the ball they were called on.

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NC if it makes you feel better Cleveland is worse than we are.
There really isnt a huge difference from 15 to us. Also look at alot of the teams that are ahead of us. They stink. So would i like to see improvement - of course but its like Kai. As long as he keeps nailing fieldgoals the short kickoffs dont bother me. As long as were putting up 30 a game neither does our conversion rate on third down.
Edit : if you do the math one stellar game of say 8 for 12 on third down - one game - will put us rite up in the middle of the pack somewhere.

[Gtothearry]

Luck? Really, come on we are a few lucky plays from 10-3. Lucky plays happen every year with every team.