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Old 12-17-2012, 03:14 PM   #46
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I kind of expected the question after yesterday to have been Roberto or keep the picks plus Cousins
That's the more logical question.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:28 PM   #47
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I'd still take Bob, he brings much needed confidence among his many other gifts. His balz out play seems to be catchy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:24 PM   #48
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The loss of Orakpo(the primary pass rusher by a wide margin) has basically crippled the overall pass defense. Rob Jackson is a solid depth player, with a nose for the football. Why is this even a discussion? Additionally, why are so many fans willing to get rid of Orakpo? You'd think the that lack of any legitimate pass rush this season would go to prove how important he is.

Also, Bob. If Griffin had the luxury of Seattle's defense and special teams, we'd be talking Superbowl.
Good post. And their homefield advantage.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:32 PM   #49
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Bob. Even though Wilson may have been the steal of the last draft.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:45 PM   #50
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RG3 easily. Now granted in this scenario Russell Wilson might be the worlds greatest consolation prize but I'd still take RG3. Maybe if the question is which young franchise QB do you trust to be healthier for the next 15 years then I might lean towards Wilson mainly because he has less rushing yards and attempts then RG3.

In regards to why I choose RG3 over Wilson aside from being a homer, I feel that Wilson has the better defense and RG3 has been playing at a top 10 level since week 1 with little to no support defensively, compared to Wilson who didn't hit his current level until November. And this has all taken place in spite of the Redskins offense now being out in the open on film.

Same can be said about Wilson but it took Wilson a while to get into the grove. I remember listening to Seattle radio at random early in the season and hearing fans at the very least expect sub 170 yard passing days to be the norm for the foreseeable future and the only reason they got out of that funk came when teams decided to see if Wilson could beat them if they took away Lynch. Griffin on the other hand has carried the team on his back since day 1 hence why I trust him more then Wilson at this point.

We all know that Griffin has the capacity to develop into a pocket passer. Heck we're already seeing it.

First 6 Games: 7 Passing TD's - 6 Rushing TD's
Last 7 Games: 13 Passing TD's - 0 Rushing TD's

He's said it from the start that he believes that QB is played best from the pocket and his running ability is a last resort. And I think what we're seeing with his ability in the redzone that he's gotten much more confident finishing off these drives through the air where in his first 6 weeks he tended to fall back on his rushing ability.

Also one last thing. Aaron Rodgers at the start of his career was the worlds least durable QB. This was the guy who broke his foot in cleanup duty after Favre left a game in 2006. He also had a hamstring injury that saw him listed as doubtful for four weeks in 2007. Missed one or two games since then. As long as RG3 continues to focus on developing as a pass first QB he will be fine health wise.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:47 PM   #51
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There's no comparison. It should be Wilson or Cousins! If the Skins do play SEA in the playoffs, I'm inclined to think RGIII would make SEA's Richard Sherman eat his words that Wilson is better than RGIII!
There might not be a Sherman in the future, read Adam S. update below:

Appeal of the four-game suspension for Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman will be held Friday, two days before game vs. SF.
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Russell Wilson is good. But RG3 is much better.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:32 PM   #53
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In hindsight what would have been the better pick for the Skins? Remember Russell allows us to keep all our draft picks. We have 3 more first round picks assuming we drafted Wilson in the later rounds.

Just something to chew on.

I think I still take RGIII.
We would have two more first round picks, if we don't make the trade but I still take Griffin.
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Bob IMO he has more growth potential.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:22 PM   #55
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Wilson is really a great QB. Carroll has been stealing plays from the Redskins for a while now and the same plays we run are now being used by both the Seahawks and 49ers. RG3 is more accurate but Wilson is accurate for a rookie too and he can hurt you with his feet just like RG3. Unlike RG3, however, Wilson actually has the physic to turn into a real RB once he takes off (5' 11" 206lb balling ball) and you're less likely to see him get hurt.

One advantage Wilson has over RG3 is he can take more risks because he's defense is amazing. He makes quite a lot of dumb mistakes with the knowledge that the defense will bail him out. Overall though, RG3 is superior in all facets of the game. I would say Wilson is a better value given how much we paid to get RG3. You're seeing the next generation of QBs and Wilson is included in the conversation.
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RGIII or any other player in the NFL = RGIII.

This kid is the future!
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Just to get this straight, The Redskins, 49ers and Seahawks are using the "pistol formation" designed by the University of Nevada coach Chris Ault. If anyone should be pretty familiar with this offense/formation is Colin Kapernick.

The pistol offense is an American football formation and strategy developed in 2004 by Chris Ault, the University of Nevada head coach. It is a hybrid of the traditional shotgun and single back offenses. In the pistol offense, also commonly referred to as the "pistol formation", the quarterback lines up four yards behind the center rather than seven yards, as with the shotgun formation. The running back lines up three yards[citation needed] directly behind the quarterback, as opposed to next to him as in the shotgun.

In the pistol formation, the quarterback is close enough to the line of scrimmage to be able to read the defense and far enough back to give him extra time and a better vision of the field just like in the shotgun.
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RGIII or any other player in the NFL = RGIII.

This kid is the future!
Is this new math? I don't get it
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is this new math? I don't get it
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Russell or Robert? I'll take Robert.

Russell plus the 3 1st round picks or Robert? I'll take Russell and the picks.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one put Russell as being that good, with the exception of me. #Hometownboy
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