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Old 12-24-2012, 01:00 PM   #76
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No way man, I understand the picks but Griffin is a once in a decade player. Wilson is good but he's nothing special, in 5 years this discussion won't be close
Hmmm really? Wilson very well maybe a once in a decade player. Shoot Tom Brady is a once in decade player he was draft in the sixth round.

Right now as 12/24/2012 Wilson and RGIII are neck and neck quality wise.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:51 PM   #77
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Definitely RG3. Wilson is a nice player. Griffin will be a transcendent player. I'm amazed that he hasn't had a "bad" game yet. One of those games that you attribute as a rookie barfing all over himself. Luck and Wilson have had a couple of those games apiece. Griffin hasn't played like a rookie at any point this season. When we get Fred Davis back next year, and additional depth on the O-line, RG3 is going to be a top-3 QB - take that to the bank.
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Definitely RG3. Wilson is a nice player. Griffin will be a transcendent player. I'm amazed that he hasn't had a "bad" game yet. One of those games that you attribute as a rookie barfing all over himself. Luck and Wilson have had a couple of those games apiece. Griffin hasn't played like a rookie at any point this season. When we get Fred Davis back next year, and additional depth on the O-line, RG3 is going to be a top-3 QB - take that to the bank.
Exactly, Griffin has played good to great against every team this year. What has been his worst game??
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Last nights game vs. the SF 49ers is the first time I ever saw Wilson play in the NFL. I saw him play for the Badgers....he did a phenomenal job at the QB position last night. But I'd choose RG3 over him. Period.
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Exactly, Griffin has played good to great against every team this year. What has been his worst game??
Probably the Pittsburgh game statistically speaking, with no help from his WRs that's for sure.
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Probably the Pittsburgh game statistically speaking, with no help from his WRs that's for sure.
Yeah your right I looked the stats up but he also had 11 that's right 11 drops lol and one was a TD pass to hank so he actually would have had a solid game
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Wilson has been simply outstanding. Both RG3 and Wilson are well deserving for ROY.
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Andrew Luck, RG3, Russell Wilson: Who will win rookie award? - NFL.com
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Robert Griffin III should win it. I'm not saying that because I'm a Redskins fanatic. I'm saying that because it's true. He's not only won the rookie of the week award more times this season than any rookie, he also broke last year's ROY Cam Newton's rushing record this year. Griffin is more deserving than Luck or Wilson.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:37 PM   #85
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Sorry, when a rookie QB leads the league in qb rating, completion percentage, has thrown the least amount of picks vs. all other starting QB's in the entire league (with 2 of those picks being ABSOLUETLY not his fault, has rushed for almost 800 yards, has a 6.6 ypc average, has thrown over 3200 yards and prolly more because of the Dallas game, thrown for 20+ TD's and rushed for 6, and has turned in a 6 (7*) game winstreak to take our team into the playoffs with a home game, and won the division, if he does not get it, it WILL be a travesty. He still has the Dallas game to really pad his stats so that there is no doubt, but still. His worst completion %age of the year was like 57.8%. That is phenomenal.

RG3 takes this one boys. With all due respect to all other QB draft classes, this draft class could be the best of all time with Luck, RG3, Wilson and Tannehill. I know its early, but I wouldnt be shocked to find out that it was in 6 or 7 years.
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AGree that RG3's cost is HUGE. 3 first rounders, a couple of second rounders... Those three first rounders could have been secondary / LB -- and made us a force for the next decade. Our last 8 first rounders: RG3, Kerrigan, TWilliams, Orakpo, Landry, Campbell, Rogers, S.Taylor -- have really only missed on Campbell, maybe Landry..

Regardless, it's only fair to have this argument in 3-5 years, when we can see if Wilson / RG3 fade with tape review. As we've seen with Cam Newton, a great rookie year can fade when everyone else figures you out. Not to mention if you thought running the zone read with a 6 foot 2 QB is dangerous, Seattle is just starting to run it with a 5'11" 206lb QB. All it takes is one hit from Rams Robert Quinn next week for Flynn to be IN.

Of the two, I still think RG3 is a better long-term bet.
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Sorry, when a rookie QB leads the league in qb rating, completion percentage, has thrown the least amount of picks vs. all other starting QB's in the entire league (with 2 of those picks being ABSOLUETLY not his fault, has rushed for almost 800 yards, has a 6.6 ypc average, has thrown over 3200 yards and prolly more because of the Dallas game, thrown for 20+ TD's and rushed for 6, and has turned in a 6 (7*) game winstreak to take our team into the playoffs with a home game, and won the division, if he does not get it, it WILL be a travesty. He still has the Dallas game to really pad his stats so that there is no doubt, but still. His worst completion %age of the year was like 57.8%. That is phenomenal.

RG3 takes this one boys. With all due respect to all other QB draft classes, this draft class could be the best of all time with Luck, RG3, Wilson and Tannehill. I know its early, but I wouldnt be shocked to find out that it was in 6 or 7 years.
Also 8 games of a passer rating over 100
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The way the NFL is though, I see Wilson getting voted as ROY only because he's currently on fire, and we seem to see the NFL talking heads focus entirely on what's currently hot, not always the body of work. I feel in regards to stats, RG3 wins hands down, but certainly it might have to do with how well these guys do in the playoffs (and yes, I'm assuming the Redskins beat the Cowboys and make it in.)
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The way the NFL is though, I see Wilson getting voted as ROY only because he's currently on fire, and we seem to see the NFL talking heads focus entirely on what's currently hot, not always the body of work. I feel in regards to stats, RG3 wins hands down, but certainly it might have to do with how well these guys do in the playoffs (and yes, I'm assuming the Redskins beat the Cowboys and make it in.)
Yeah, Seahawks seem poised to make a serious run this time.

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I think RG3 should win it and yes probably because I am a Skins fan. If you look at the overall quality of work RG3 has played like a professional all season, while Luck and Wilson have both performed at times like rookies, in particular Luck lately. His consistent proficiency as QB sets him a part. I think the biggest knock to RG3 could be the big season AlMo is having.
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