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Old 12-31-2012, 02:07 PM   #106
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Come from behind victories matter why? Cut down on mistakes and there isn't a need to come from behind.

We won 5 games last year. If we played the Colts last year would you be confident we would've beat them? I'm not.

Base the award off of the best stats not what the teams record was the year before. Teams talent levels are always under/overestimated each year. This is why we have a worst to first scenario almost every year.

The award shouldn't be based upon what if's but on which player statistically had a better year.

The colts and skins were not picked to make the playoffs but both did. So, both qb's led their team where experts thought they couldn't. Strictly #'s wise who had the better season? Pretty simple answer for me if we aren't concerned with what experts told us a team should have done this year.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:09 PM   #107
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Have you seen what Luck has done despite the turnovers? Remember 4 rookie receivers, I've seen many balls bounce off their hands for INT's and yes he is also to blame for 2/3 of them, still 11-5 after 2-14 with 7 come from behind victories, give the man credit.
No one is saying Luck sucks. We are saying he isn't the best rookie QB. Are you? He is in the conversation for ROY - unlike a Weeden, Tannehill, T.Richardson or D. Martin (or Morris for that matter).

We get it. You love Luck. Great. From what I have seen, he has made some top flight throws and also some pretty f'ing crappy ones. I won't pretend to know the Colts offense or personnel, but I am pretty sure that, for the entire season, Luck has had his number 1 receiving option (who happens to be a pro-bowl and possible HOF'er) and, over the course of the season, Hilton has developed into a legitimate deep threat. (BTW - I have watched Luck and not just the highlights, but games).

Luck is very good. Griffin and Wilson have been stellar. Griffin from game one, Wilson as he developed down the stretch and, b/c he has done it from game one, Griff gets the nod in my book.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:14 PM   #108
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I love RGIII as much anyone, he is our QB and is fantastic x1000. All I'm saying is that Luck and Wilson might not compare in athleticism, because that's were RGIII beats them hands down. All 3 are smart, tough and class acts.
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I love RGIII as much anyone, he is our QB and is fantastic x1000. All I'm saying is that Luck and Wilson might not compare in athleticism, because that's were RGIII beats them hands down. All 3 are smart, tough and class acts.
Yes. All three are and I don't think anyone would dispute that. However, only one can be ROY. Right now, acknowledging Luck's good points, the discussion is between RGIII and Wilson. One of them is going to get it, Luck will likely finish third in the voting.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:08 AM   #110
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Been watching some NFL Network and ESPN (trying to sober up before bed) and seems like the consensus is Wilson over RG for the playoff game, but this is an example of why I dislike analysts/commentators. When you actually listen to what they're saying, it's really Seattle over Washington i.e. Seattle has a significantly better defense and marginally better offense. They try to bring it down to personalities, which is pretty nonsensical unless the debate is PC vs MS.
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yep votes are due in by Wednesday according to sirius.
Wow, and I was thinking the one that played better this weekend would get it.

Would this be motivation for the team whose QB is snubbed? Both have had ROY performances.
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Wow, and I was thinking the one that played better this weekend would get it.

Would this be motivation for the team whose QB is snubbed? Both have had ROY performances.
The awards aren't announced until after the playoffs.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:57 AM   #113
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D'oh! Thanks.
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Was switching from station to station yesterday morning.Tuned into 1 station,1560 yahoo sports in Houston.Local guys had the day off so they were going with the national guy on Yahoo sports,I didnt catch his name so I looked up yahoo sports and their morning guy is Steve Czaban,so Im assuming it was him.What a fookin moron.He was talking about RG3,saying I dont get it,he never throws the ball over 7 yards,challenged audience to remember any memorable plays over 10 yards downfield,etc etc.I was like are you fkin kidding me? I called him and they said that what I was hearing had been recorded earlier that morning and they werent taking calls at that time.So Ive emailed him and I didnt insult him because I wanted him to read the email,I just threw out some stats and asked him to reeducate himself because he must have only watched the last Dallas game,which was by far Griffins worse game.
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:20 AM   #115
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Czabe is a moron. For someone who "works" as hard as he does, he's completely clueless. He speaks just to be heard
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Czabe is a moron. For someone who "works" as hard as he does, he's completely clueless. He speaks just to be heard
I'd have to agree,I mean to say something like that is just a completely ignorant statement.I actually woke up in the middle of the night still pissed thinking about what a idiot this guy is
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:41 AM   #117
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Well I guess I owe apology to Steve,apparently it wasn't him.Im shocked I just received reply from iPhone from a guy named Scott Lin saying theyve been on vacation since 12-21,so it must have been another moron filling in.I was shocked to get a reply,that someone was actually listening
Scott Lins email says he's with Espn 980
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:47 AM   #118
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Hankerson
Robinson x2
Garçon x2
Moss
I"m sure I'm missing others.
I guess he doesn't watch the games.
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Well I guess I owe apology to Steve,apparently it wasn't him.Im shocked I just received reply from iPhone from a guy named Scott Lin saying theyve been on vacation since 12-21,so it must have been another moron filling in.I was shocked to get a reply,that someone was actually listening
Scott Lins email says he's with Espn 980
Well Czabe has said similar stuff and is still a moron.

Linn is Czabe's producer if I remember right, for both ESPN 980 and Yahoo Sports
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Usually Chris Russell fills in in the mornings for Czabe
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