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Old 12-19-2012, 02:16 AM   #136
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Maybe. Or maybe I'm saying what if all three were here through 2015? One or two may be locked in longer
I'll take a Kyle shanahan-rg3 combo as long as I can get. I would be stoked if we extended Kyle. I'd trade the playoffs this year for locking up Kyle throughout rg3s career in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:30 PM   #137
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

On a related topic, when is Hasletts contract up? Given the lack of talent he's had to work with, i think he's done an exceptional job with the defense this season. he's due for an extension.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:34 PM   #138
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On a related topic, when is Hasletts contract up? Given the lack of talent he's had to work with, i think he's done an exceptional job with the defense this season. he's due for an extension.
Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension | ProFootballTalk

Coach Haz was given an extension back in September. It is believed to run through the 2013 season. He was obviously in the last year of his contract before the 2012 season began.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:46 PM   #139
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From my understanding 2013 is not a guaranteed contract year for Haz
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:54 PM   #140
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Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension | ProFootballTalk

Coach Haz was given an extension back in September. It is believed to run through the 2013 season. He was obviously in the last year of his contract before the 2012 season began.
I cant beleive i forgot all about the "Raheem Morris taking over playcalling duties" drama. Winning will do that do ya.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:32 PM   #141
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

There needs to be a 3rd option in the poll beside yes or no,like not quite yet.
If the Shanaplan was to suck so bad that would end up with RG3 then it was a great plan.Yes were on a nice winning streak but im not getting carried away.Im not quite ready to forget the Mcnabb fiasco and the way the whole thing was handled.The whole Haynesworth thing,switching to the 3-4 made no sense and pissed off your 100 million dollar player,those are 2 major f ckups im not ready to forget just because weve won a few games in a row.
The other little things that plagued Mike since he's been here like clock management and on field descisions like when to throw flag for instant replay,have improved slightly during win streak but not by much.
Theres been a few things ive had problems with but we won the games so they were rendered mute.
Then theres the leading the league in penalties,is that on the coach?
Im happy with the progress weve made and I think Mike and Kyle have improved over the winning streak but Im not ready to click on yes or no just yet
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:47 PM   #142
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There needs to be a 3rd option in the poll beside yes or no,like not quite yet.
If the Shanaplan was to suck so bad that would end up with RG3 then it was a great plan.Yes were on a nice winning streak but im not getting carried away.Im not quite ready to forget the Mcnabb fiasco and the way the whole thing was handled.The whole Haynesworth thing,switching to the 3-4 made no sense and pissed off your 100 million dollar player,those are 2 major f ckups im not ready to forget just because weve won a few games in a row.
The other little things that plagued Mike since he's been here like clock management and on field descisions like when to throw flag for instant replay,have improved slightly during win streak but not by much.
Theres been a few things ive had problems with but we won the games so they were rendered mute.
Then theres the leading the league in penalties,is that on the coach?
Im happy with the progress weve made and I think Mike and Kyle have improved over the winning streak but Im not ready to click on yes or no just yet
Let's not forget entering last year with John Beck/Rex Grossman as the starting QB. That one is going to take time to live down.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:09 PM   #143
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Let's not forget entering last year with John Beck/Rex Grossman as the starting QB. That one is going to take time to live down.
As bad as that was, it allowed us to suck enough to get the high 1st and 2nd from last year along with the 2013 and 2014 #1's that allowed us to pull off the trade to get RGIII. Some bad things things happen for a good reason.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:11 PM   #144
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There needs to be a 3rd option in the poll beside yes or no,like not quite yet.
If the Shanaplan was to suck so bad that would end up with RG3 then it was a great plan.Yes were on a nice winning streak but im not getting carried away.Im not quite ready to forget the Mcnabb fiasco and the way the whole thing was handled.The whole Haynesworth thing,switching to the 3-4 made no sense and pissed off your 100 million dollar player,those are 2 major f ckups im not ready to forget just because weve won a few games in a row.
The other little things that plagued Mike since he's been here like clock management and on field descisions like when to throw flag for instant replay,have improved slightly during win streak but not by much.
Theres been a few things ive had problems with but we won the games so they were rendered mute.
Then theres the leading the league in penalties,is that on the coach?
Im happy with the progress weve made and I think Mike and Kyle have improved over the winning streak but Im not ready to click on yes or no just yet
Those negative things you point out were legitimate issues back then and Shanahan did f-up some those things himself. However if you look at the way the team is performing on the field now compared to the final year of Zorn or even the first year and half of Shanahan, the team has improved immensely. That is the most important thing that the team is playing well. Not those old past issues that we have since overcome. It was a journey we had to take to shed the losing ways and culture we had in DC. All that other shit is in the past. We have a fairly talented up and coming young team. That is Shanahan and Allen.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:27 PM   #145
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Are you now convinced the Redskins are a complete team?

^ After reading this I thought it might make for some interesting discussion here.

Funny how just 5 weeks ago we were discussing blowing the whole thing up... Now where do you stand?
I would say that with the current 5 (4?) game win streak, it would be hard to say that things have not gotten better on the squad as a whole. Our defense still scares me, but I believe that Shanahan knows that at minimum, he needs one solid corner, one solid safety, and another solid tackle to say this team is a true to god contender. If we just had better safety play this year, I think we could be heading into week 16 with 10 or 11 wins. I am astonished at how the team has turned around, with the losing streak and the reports of him losing some key players confidence. That being said, it sure does feel good to have a team that is competitive week in and week out. I am changing my tune on how Shanahan is building up this team, and gladly. With RG3, Almo and our solid recievers, offense shouldn't be a problem for at least 6-7 years. Now, we just need one more solid corner and one more solid safety, and this team is looking at double digit wins and playoff runs year after year.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:39 PM   #146
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A 5 game winning streak does not erase McNabb, Jamal Brown, John Beck, endless penalties, clock mgt issues, lack of hurry offense when needed, the 3-4. Let's see how this season ends and see how the off season goes. To be continued.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:43 PM   #147
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Kyle a innovator? Pfft....dude is just holding this offense back.
Overall Kyle has done a nice job but I still think he is too conservative with RG3. Last week was the most aggressive I've seen him call the game this year. Not as many wr screens and shorts passes.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:11 PM   #148
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I hate John Beck the QB, think he's beyond awful. And manipulated everyone with his "I'm rounding up the players for lockout practices"

But...we make too big a deal out of his year here. We traded Doug Dutch...DOUG DUTCH!!!...for him. That's a mistake? But somehow, not drafting Blaine Gabbert high or Ponder or even Locker (who I would have taken) is overlooked.

Anyhow, carry on
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:21 PM   #149
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Overall Kyle has done a nice job but I still think he is too conservative with RG3. Last week was the most aggressive I've seen him call the game this year. Not as many wr screens and shorts passes.
Wr screens and short passes are important because they keep our defense off the field. Long, slow, methodical scoring drives, with the occasional deep pass to keep defenses honest. That's how we win.
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Overall Kyle has done a nice job but I still think he is too conservative with RG3. Last week was the most aggressive I've seen him call the game this year. Not as many wr screens and shorts passes.
Funny you say that, because I always thought that he always went for the deep throw on 3rd and short earlier in the season when we were terrible at converting 3rd downs. I must say it is nice to see our team making the big plays and I am glad that RG3 is connecting with his receivers on those deep throws. Although I wish I wouldn't have a heart attack anytime someone throws to Hank deep.
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