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Old 12-20-2012, 09:32 AM   #166
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I agree. If we had drafted Gabbert, Ponder, or traded up for Locker our franchise probably would have been handicapped for another 3-4 years, similar to Jason Campbell or Ramsey picks for the skins, because that is what happens when you reach for quarterbacks (the Jets are a perfect example). One offseason/draft will not and would not have fixed the Redskins, we are still a couple of more moves from being true contenders for the superbowl, nice seeing the pieces being built though. It is a lot easier when you have the right quarterback though.
Exactly, hindsight is a beautiful thing.. I guran-damn-tee it that those same people focused on Rex/Beck would be bitching up a storm if Gabbert/Ponder/Locker was our QB and struggling while our pass rush from the LB position was negligible. Now they would be saying 'We should have drafted JJ Watt or Ryan Kerrigan and waited on a QB! Look at what the rookie QB are doing!'
Plus even if we had drafted Gabbert/Ponder/Locker, we probably would have started Rex/Beck anyways. Even without RG3, there's not a realistic alternative that was available at the QB position in 2010 or 2011 that would have gotten us at the cusp of an NFC East title at this point.

Some folks are just pre-disposed to complain and focus on the negative.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:38 AM   #167
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It's not the trade. It's Mike Shanahan saying "he'd put his reputation" on John Beck being a good QB. He actualy tried to sell that nonsense to the fans. WTF was he looking at that made him think Beck could play? But that's all in the past. Hopefully we're headed in the right direction, but I can't say I'm 100% on board simply because of a 5 game win steak.
What else was he gonna say?

Hey everyone we all know Rex and Beck blow, but they're all we got this year?

It was just coach speak. Nothing more.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:45 AM   #168
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What else was he gonna say?

Hey everyone we all know Rex and Beck blow, but they're all we got this year?

It was just coach speak. Nothing more.
Preach. Fans take stuff too literally. Maybe he should have said, "All our QB's blow, so we are going to go into this season to evaluate whose going to be here going forward and preparing for next season".
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:52 AM   #169
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Preach. Fans take stuff too literally. Maybe he should have said, "All our QB's blow, so we are going to go into this season to evaluate whose going to be here going forward and preparing for next season".
Ooohh. Wish he had - we would have rattled off five in a row.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:15 AM   #170
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

I want to ask the hatters, what were your expectations this season? And what were your expectations when Shanny and Bruce took over?

I think that would help me understand alot of things.

Dont talk about McNabb, Brown, and the defense...we know the regime's mistakes, No team is perfect. Sure, we know RT and the secondary is an issue and we should have resigned Carlos, we know these things. But what were your expectations?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:29 AM   #171
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Im not sure if you are referring to me, but i was def on the hater side during the early part of the season. I was stoked when they took over. I didnt blame shanny for mcnabb. I thought he had something left in the tank. He had a great year prior. When beck n rex took over i wasnt upset about not drafting a qb. We had a ton of holes. Wasnt till this yr when i realized how good rg3 was that i started questioning the losses. My expectations for this yr were if rex can win 6 Griff can win 10. Looks like i was correct. I always gave Shanny credit for denver - elway was a shell of himself n those sp wins were all shanny. I defended his presser after the panthers game too. Thought it was taken out of context. My expectations for thus season n years to come are the sky is the limit.
So again - i questioned 3-6 start. Still do. But its over and we seemed to have turned a corner. Whats done is done. Im on board. Ask okie after the first giants game / loss - i said we r going to make the playoffs. I saw a team effort in that game.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:53 AM   #172
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You thought we were a 10 win team? wow. I thought at 9 wins we would be exceeding expectations.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:58 AM   #173
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What else was he gonna say?

Hey everyone we all know Rex and Beck blow, but they're all we got this year?

It was just coach speak. Nothing more.
Thank you!!! . . . i am sick of people talking about shanny staking his reputation on Rex and Beck . . . he was standing up for what he has . . . as any coach would . . . that's it . . .
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:58 AM   #174
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You thought we were a 10 win team? wow. I thought at 9 wins we would be exceeding expectations.
And just think where we might have been if we hadn't had injuries and been the most penalized team in the league. Think about that. It blows my mind. We are the most penalized team in the league and are making a push for a 10 win season and a division championship. That needs to be a big off season coaching point, have to clean that sloppiness up!
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:28 AM   #175
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You thought we were a 10 win team? wow. I thought at 9 wins we would be exceeding expectations.
Because we had a rookie qb rite? I was a huge fan of rg-3's in college, and liked him alot coming out of college. Once we had sealed the deal with him i seriously thought that even as a rookie he was an immense improvement over rexy or beck. So yeah ten wins seemed possible to me. I also thought our schedule was easier than last years. I was so terribly dissapointed with the slow start that i started to really question what Shanny was doing. Maybe i was over confident but based on the marked improvement at the qb spot which seemed to be the one thing holding us back in so many close losses last yr i didnt know how else to explain the losses.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:42 PM   #176
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^^^ Ding ding ding ... we have a winner.

They took a stab at the QB position with McNabb - it didn't work out. Was it a bad move? In hindsight, absolutely. At the time, I wasn't against it.

Beck and Grossman were the non-moves of the decade. If not for them, we have Gabbert.
I was kinda excited when we brought in Mcnabb. Thought we may get a few years out of him and he would be successful. But oh we'll it didn't work and now we get to build around our own young rookie stud and a competent back up. Done, from an elated and happy fan
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:31 PM   #177
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I hate John Beck the QB, think he's beyond awful. And manipulated everyone with his "I'm rounding up the players for lockout practices"

But...we make too big a deal out of his year here. We traded Doug Dutch...DOUG DUTCH!!!...for him. That's a mistake? But somehow, not drafting Blaine Gabbert high or Ponder or even Locker (who I would have taken) is overlooked.
Of course it's overlooked. Not to mention Kolb, Flynn, Sanchez, Palmer...

Don't you know how to play the "grass is greener" game at the Warpath??

First, the grass is ALWAYS greener. Second, NEVER suggest a better alternative.

This way you can complain all you want and never eat crow. It's fun.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:50 PM   #178
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I want to ask the hatters, what were your expectations this season? And what were your expectations when Shanny and Bruce took over?

I think that would help me understand alot of things.

Dont talk about McNabb, Brown, and the defense...we know the regime's mistakes, No team is perfect. Sure, we know RT and the secondary is an issue and we should have resigned Carlos, we know these things. But what were your expectations?
I said (prior to reg season) 8-8 was minimum expectation, and that was before we knew RG was this phenomenal.

I'd answer your other question but defense is a big part of the answer, so nevermind hoss.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:14 PM   #179
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Of course it's overlooked. Not to mention Kolb, Flynn, Sanchez, Palmer...

Don't you know how to play the "grass is greener" game at the Warpath??

First, the grass is ALWAYS greener. Second, NEVER suggest a better alternative.

This way you can complain all you want and never eat crow. It's fun.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:17 PM   #180
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I said (prior to reg season) 8-8 was minimum expectation, and that was before we knew RG was this phenomenal.

I'd answer your other question but defense is a big part of the answer, so nevermind hoss.

After the first game against the Saints, you could tell that this team had the potential to do something special this season. But the defense, particularly the secondary, gave away leads and games that the explosive offense had produced and held the team back. But since the bye week the Redskins have been very professional and have buckled down quite a bit and have played some excellent football on both sides of the ball that has contributed to the turnaround.
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