Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

Hog1 · 12-22-2012, 05:18 PM

At 35, he may have some time yet, but sure as hell, he'll be on "Dancing with the Stars" and end up back in Miami....right?
No thanks.....Keep going young and building for the future.

GTripp0012 · 12-22-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I want to ask the hatters, what were your expectations this season? And what were your expectations when Shanny and Bruce took over?

I think that would help me understand alot of things.

Dont talk about McNabb, Brown, and the defense...we know the regime's mistakes, No team is perfect. Sure, we know RT and the secondary is an issue and we should have resigned Carlos, we know these things. But what were your expectations?

I think anyone who said after the RG3 trade that "Mike Shanahan can really afford another 5-11 season" would just have being dishonest. A pretty 8-8 (gaudy offensive stats - as we have enjoyed) or any 9-10 win season was baseline expectation.

So we've met baseline expectation for the season already, barring some sort of self-destructive last two games, which I don't think will happen. We're back in the chase for the NFC East, and I think we'll take care of the Eagles pretty routinely.

GTripp0012 · 12-22-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinzman

See, here is part of the problem. Its the same problem I have with GTripp. You both seem to to think that building a team in the NFL is a one year proposition. Where you say throw away a season, I say didnt get locked into a bad QB and waste 4 or 5 seasons. I have tried to make the case that passing on Gabbert was a good thing, and the responses I get are more about me having an attitude because I believe that the only way to build a team is "my way".

But the whole "All it takes is one year" is a clear sign that no team building is needed by the people who say it. And that is flat out wrong. If that was right, then Vinny Cerrato is the greatest GM to ever grace the planet. He made the most 1 year moves I have ever seen.

Finding the RIGHT QB is the most important piece to any NFL team. He found it... yet all you say (and others like you) is that a season was wasted.

We're in year three now so whether or not an organization can be turned in the right direction within the first year is not a relevant discussion to the Shanahan Redskins.

Finding the right quarterback doesn't matter if you win 33% of your games. If you are winning 60% and have a 22-year old franchise quarterback, then you have accomplished something special.

Lotus · 12-22-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I doubt Reed leaves the Ravens. And age isn't a factor for FS's. Those guys will play till their 38-39 (Dawkins for example)

I gotta disagree. A FS, who sometimes has coverage responsibilities, can lose a step to age just like a corner would.

Denver Dawkins was not as good as young Philly Dawkins for this reason.

That Guy · 12-22-2012, 09:04 PM

the best buy in FA this offseason is byrd by far... if he makes it to free agency.

mbedner3420 · 12-22-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

the best buy in FA this offseason is byrd by far... if he makes it to free agency.

I agree, but I doubt he makes it to free agency.

REDSKINS4ever · 12-23-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KJHJ2

Perhaps I am in the minority but the defense is just not the same without Orakpo. I just have not seen that much of a pass rush in the absense of Rak and Adam. The defense has tightened lately, but there still seems to be a lack of pressure.

The defense is able to get the job done. Our secondary has played better during the 5 game winning streak. Yes, because of the season ending injuries to Carriker and Orakpo the sack totals are down this year. But what Haslett has been able to do is adjust to the level of personnel that he has and he's called some great games lately and has placed the defensive players into positions to make plays and they have done that. We need to get over not having Orakpo and Carriker. Cofield had sack last week and the defense HAS been getting pressure on opposing quarterbacks. That may not produce sacks, but the pressure applied has been just as effective as sacks.......

TheSmurfs22 · 12-23-2012, 07:38 AM

I am beginningi to, but need to see it play out another year. We finally seem to be in the right direction. I guess I am still alittle cynical after years and years of inepitude.

REDSKINS4ever · 12-23-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Snyder should arrange Shanahan-to-Shanahan succession plan | ProFootballTalk

Thought this should go here

I don't understand some people's logic. Why would Kyle Shanahan want a head coaching job handed to him? If there's other head coaching jobs available when the times comes, then wouldn't Kyle Shanahan want to explore those opportunities? Why would he want his father's job just handed to him?

For all we know, Jim Haslett might get the Redskins head coaching job once Mike Shanahan leaves Washington.

GTripp0012 · 12-23-2012, 09:13 PM

He's on a short list of those ready for that job this year.

I mean, I think it would be cool if he stuck here another year, but it's probably not realistic. I'm happy that discussions are ongoing to try to keep him.

Mattyk · 12-23-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I don't understand some people's logic. Why would Kyle Shanahan want a head coaching job handed to him? If there's other head coaching jobs available when the times comes, then wouldn't Kyle Shanahan want to explore those opportunities? Why would he want his father's job just handed to him?

For all we know, Jim Haslett might get the Redskins head coaching job once Mike Shanahan leaves Washington.

Haslett? Um, no.

SkinzWin · 12-23-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I don't understand some people's logic. Why would Kyle Shanahan want a head coaching job handed to him? If there's other head coaching jobs available when the times comes, then wouldn't Kyle Shanahan want to explore those opportunities? Why would he want his father's job just handed to him?

For all we know, Jim Haslett might get the Redskins head coaching job once Mike Shanahan leaves Washington.

Yeah, and Haslett is going to bring in Jerry Jones as Special Teams coach.

Chico23231 · 12-24-2012, 09:00 AM

I cant believe we are playing for the East title prime time, last regular game of the season against our biggest rival. hats off to the NFL schedulers, good job.

How did this happen? Im still in a daze...is this really happening with a Rookie QB? WTF??????????????

REDSKINS4ever · 12-24-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Haslett? Um, no.

I mentioned Haslett because he's been a head coach before. If Kyle Shanahan moves on and Mike steps down, Bruce Allen would indeed promote Haslett to HC.....people forget that Jim Haslett was the NFL coach of the year in 2000.

Mattyk · 12-24-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I mentioned Haslett because he's been a head coach before. If Kyle Shanahan moves on and Mike steps down, Bruce Allen would indeed promote Haslett to HC.....people forget that Jim Haslett was the NFL coach of the year in 2000.

No, he wouldn't.

Morris would be in line for the job over Haslett, easily.

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12-22-2012, 05:18 PM	#241
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,983	Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan? At 35, he may have some time yet, but sure as hell, he'll be on "Dancing with the Stars" and end up back in Miami....right? No thanks.....Keep going young and building for the future. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

12-22-2012, 09:04 PM	#245
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 31 Posts: 16,245	Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan? the best buy in FA this offseason is byrd by far... if he makes it to free agency. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

12-23-2012, 07:38 AM	#248
TheSmurfs22 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 1,077	Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan? I am beginningi to, but need to see it play out another year. We finally seem to be in the right direction. I guess I am still alittle cynical after years and years of inepitude. __________________ F#$% the Cowpukes!

12-23-2012, 09:13 PM	#250
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 26 Posts: 15,993	Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan? He's on a short list of those ready for that job this year. I mean, I think it would be cool if he stuck here another year, but it's probably not realistic. I'm happy that discussions are ongoing to try to keep him. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-24-2012, 09:00 AM	#253
Chico23231 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 11,007	Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan? I cant believe we are playing for the East title prime time, last regular game of the season against our biggest rival. hats off to the NFL schedulers, good job. How did this happen? Im still in a daze...is this really happening with a Rookie QB? WTF?????????????? __________________ @RSherman_25 just make sure you stay in Seattle cause without that pass rush you are who we thought you were. 5th rd PK no speed good hands — DeAngelo Hall (@DeAngeloHall23) March 14, 2014

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