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Old 01-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #331
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

An extension now is a dumb idea. We're on a nice run. See where it goes, and more importantly, see how next year turns out. Nobody is going anywhere regardless. The franchises with open HC spots (if you believe Kyle would really be on a short list) don't have much promise. So he'd presumably go somewhere, lose for two-three years and ultimately be back to coordinating somewhere else. I say if he wants to do that, we don't want him anyway.

At any rate, negotiating anything in the midst of the staff's only good showing, a seven game stretch after two and a half seasons of dismal results, is just stupid business by any franchise. It's the kind of the thing I'd expect from the "old" Snyder.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:06 PM   #332
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

We need to fire Mike Shanahan today. He has won nothing. We should bring in Wayne Fontes to replace him.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:21 AM   #333
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

This wasn't new thread worthy, but is it time to let Shanny off the hook for the McNabb deal? Consider this since the trade:
Philadelphia has a 22-26 record, no clear answer at QB, has changed front office personnel, fired their coach and is looking at starting over. The picks traded for McNabb (Nate Allen, repeatedly injured and benched & through a series of trades Casey Matthews, DeMeco Ryans & Nick Foles) haven't yielded much fruit for the Eagles. Foles may turn out to be serviceable but he's far from a clear cut NFL starting QB.

From our side we are 21-27 (one game worse), have a clear answer at QB, stability in coaching and front office and turned McNabb into the pick that brought us Alfred Morris.

How does that deal look from a different perspective now?
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:30 AM   #334
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

I just wanted to mark it for the record, I am not one of the three that voted NO.

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Old 01-02-2013, 10:33 AM   #335
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

QB play is clearly an area we have lacked for a long time. The other part of the McNabb trade was the releasing of JC. I was one who rather would have kept JC, but clearly his play since being released, including his time in Oakland, showed keeping him would have done nothing more than McNabb/Grossman and the upside potential of McNabb and Grossman were better at the time. So, while I don't think Shanahan gets kudos for handling the JC/McNabb situation, ultimately we came out ahead, and I don't think it set the team back any in its development.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:36 AM   #336
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This wasn't new thread worthy, but is it time to let Shanny off the hook for the McNabb deal? Consider this since the trade:
Philadelphia has a 22-26 record, no clear answer at QB, has changed front office personnel, fired their coach and is looking at starting over. The picks traded for McNabb (Nate Allen, repeatedly injured and benched & through a series of trades Casey Matthews, DeMeco Ryans & Nick Foles) haven't yielded much fruit for the Eagles. Foles may turn out to be serviceable but he's far from a clear cut NFL starting QB.

From our side we are 21-27 (one game worse), have a clear answer at QB, stability in coaching and front office and turned McNabb into the pick that brought us Alfred Morris.

How does that deal look from a different perspective now?
Funny how quickly things change eh?

Look at the way things are shaping up in the division. The Eagles are in full rebuild mode, the Cowboys are stumbling and bumbling around as usual, Romo is nearing the end of his contract there, and the Giants lost a lot of their luster this year and showed that you can't just expect to turn it on at the end of every season. Meanwhile the Skins are stocked with young talent are only trending upward.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:48 AM   #337
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Build through the draft, what a concept right?

East Division Champs after the 3rd year? NO question the plan has worked. HTTR
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:28 AM   #338
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Build through the draft, what a concept right?

East Division Champs after the 3rd year? NO question the plan has worked. HTTR
And do your homework well when acquiring FAs (Cofield, Carriker, Garcon, Morgan)
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Build through the draft, what a concept right?

East Division Champs after the 3rd year? NO question the plan has worked. HTTR
Should be the first of many with RGIII
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:38 AM   #340
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And do your homework well when acquiring FAs (Cofield, Carriker, Garcon, Morgan)
Yeah, you always gotta spend to add quality, but you have to spend wisely and bring in good players, but good people as well.


Look to the Eagles on what not to do...Reid was crazy and spent oodles for over priced free agents and look where they are now. Glad we dont do that ish anymore.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:30 PM   #341
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Yeah, you always gotta spend to add quality, but you have to spend wisely and bring in good players, but good people as well.


Look to the Eagles on what not to do...Reid was crazy and spent oodles for over priced free agents and look where they are now. Glad we dont do that ish anymore.


Well we still spend a lot on free agents and probably always will.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:33 PM   #342
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Well we still spend a lot on free agents and probably always will.
We don't spend as recklessly as we used to in the Vinny days.

Under Allen the contracts have been much more in line with what the market pays.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:37 PM   #343
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Yeah, you always gotta spend to add quality, but you have to spend wisely and bring in good players, but good people as well.


Look to the Eagles on what not to do...Reid was crazy and spent oodles for over priced free agents and look where they are now. Glad we dont do that ish anymore.
I'm still shocked that the Iggles basically took our blueprint for losing under Vinny and followed it step by step. They got a whole bunch of pricey free agents (some past their primes) and let their o-line deteriorate.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:39 PM   #344
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Kinda felt like Reid and the Eagles got desperate the last couple of years. I guess he saw his window to win it all coming to a close so he gambled on some big free agents and lost. His drafts lately were also lacking.
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Kinda felt like Reid and the Eagles got desperate the last couple of years. I guess he saw his window to win it all coming to a close so he gambled on some big free agents and lost. His drafts lately were also lacking.
Started to build his team like Washington Redskins of old by just signing and trading for big free agents instead of building his team through the draft and a few key moves. It is what happens when teams get desperate.
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