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Old 12-20-2012, 08:45 AM   #181
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Did anyone think we'd care this much about what's going with Jordan Black this season?
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:50 AM   #182
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Did anyone think we'd care this much about what's going with Jordan Black this season?
I am surprised there is an entire thread about it but as I am looking at the comments, it looks like most of the comments have nothing to do with Jordan Black.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:13 AM   #183
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Did anyone think we'd care this much about what's going with Jordan Black this season?
Not sure if many of us thought we'd care about much at all at this point in the season.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:16 AM   #184
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Did anyone think we'd care this much about what's going with Jordan Black this season?
Nope. Nor did I ever think that I would miss seeing Polumbus on the field.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:46 AM   #185
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Silly rabbits, this ain't about Jordan Black. This is about the masses flocking to 12th's threads.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:47 AM   #186
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Silly rabbits, this ain't about Jordan Black. This is about the masses flocking to 12th's threads.
I thought it was about sneakers?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:49 AM   #187
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I'm predicting a blocked field goal and punt this weekend.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:57 AM   #188
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:13 PM   #189
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Yes!

But c'mon buddy, you know I can't just leave it there lol. Just making the playoffs is enough to cement another year of the regime (keeping its current structure) for me. That said, I want to see two consecutive years (presumably this year and next) of improvement before we start signing Shanahans to the next decade of coaching. I think the talk of a clear and recognizable "Shanaplan," extensions, or anything beyond next season is pretty silly right now. I reckon some folks are ready to crown Mike a King and Kyle a prince, I guess because they (fingers crossed) are on the verge of a winning season. It's why I've been rehashing the (vast) shortcomings of the regime in this thread...let's chill the eff out and see what happens.
I know I am, because the pinnacle of every season is winning 5 straight games, and now that we've accomplished that, what is there left to accomplish? Let's crown their asses!
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:12 PM   #190
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Your just hesitant to go all in because your afraid to be pissed off if it blows up again like it has so many times before. I get it. Alot of us are.
Makes me feel better to know that i got an emphatic yes! Lol. I knew you would be hard pressed to give me a one word answer, but i did get a one word paragraph!
I will never say i told you so Goat, i cant. I publicly pointed out shortcomings while they were losing. However, i think coaches can change, Anything you dont like about Shannys defensive personnel decisions can change. We dont know exactly who is discussing exactly what behind closed doors about personnel but old dogs do learn new tricks contrary to popular belief. I firmly believe on every level that this team is onto something big - for a long while - and that it is not just because they got lucky and landed RG-3.
Not really. My skepticism is pretty specific to Shanahan.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:21 PM   #191
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Goat, I remember when Shanny was fired in Denver. He was quoted as saying something to the affect of "Now that I have a chmapioship conteding offense I need to get a defense and start contending for a championship again".

That would leave me to believe that his next steps in completing his 5 year plan will be to stack the defense the next two years while tweaking the offense to create a team capable of accomplishing that goal.

Yes the team had a defense that was ranked back then, but it was over paid veterans who were nearing the end of thier careers. The defense was going to need an overhaul soon, and Shanny wanted the 3-4. He took something that wasn't broke at the time but was heading there and started to reconstruct it. It obviously needs more work, but once again teams aren't built in an off season
Good post. Shanny had some solid defenses between Elway's retirement and his own ousting, but most Denver fans (all the ones I know) don't believe he could put it all together to be a contender after Elway. And most fans believe that had everything to do with Mike taking an ever larger role in personnel decisions, to the point where he was basically wearing both hats.

I think those criticisms are accurate and justified but there's always more to the story. Shanahan/Elway never faced the kind of high powered offenses and defenses the following decade produced in NE, Indy, and (begrudgingly) Pittsburgh. I always thought Shanahan's teams were on the sloppy side, just as we see today with more penalties than any other team etc etc. But for that brief time in Denver he had a team that was unbelievably talented, and again it was a rather low point elsewhere in the NFL.

Today, Mike is still wearing both hats. Some supporters say we have little talent three years in (which always makes me wonder why the eff they're supporters). I think we have some good talent. I thought we had enough talent to finish 8-8 minimum this season, and that was before we saw RG play.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:23 PM   #192
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Nope. Nor did I ever think that I would miss seeing Polumbus on the field.
He was soooooooo bad against the Browns. Watched the game again yesterday, and it's scary to think the guys behind him could be worse.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:26 PM   #193
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Not really. My skepticism is pretty specific to Shanahan.
Yeah but the Spurriers and Zorns and Vinnies of years past have made the Redskins winning seem like an impossible chore. Shanny is without a doubt a better candidate than those clowns. Open up your heart and let Shanny in Goat. Feel the love man!
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In general, I don't think its too uncommon to have a coach drive personnel decisions too. Isn't it pretty common? I don't know how many more teams have a pure personnel GM, who operates in a silo from the head coach.

I do think you have a few owners, who play the GM role, and we've seen how that has worked in DC. Its good we've moved away from that.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:54 PM   #195
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Yeah but the Spurriers and Zorns and Vinnies of years past have made the Redskins winning seem like an impossible chore. Shanny is without a doubt a better candidate than those clowns. Open up your heart and let Shanny in Goat. Feel the love man!
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But they were clowns. That's like saying you're a real nice guy compared to Charles Manson lol
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