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Old 12-24-2012, 01:44 PM   #316
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Most people (on here) are actually saying that there are two legit OROY's Griffin and Wilson.

This has nothing to do with who we think is a great rookie QB anyways, it's about weighing which offensive player deserves the award more, and just by looking at the stats the picture gets pretty clear.
Just to let you know Luck has 225/224 more passing attempts than Wilson/RGIII. That tells me the Colts lack a running attack (no Morris or Lynch). More passing attempts more INT's. Luck has 4183 yards passing 254 rushing, 26 TD's 21 passing 5 rushing 18 INT's 8 fumbles. No one comes close to RGIII 750 rushing yards just like no one comes close to Luck's passing yards. The award will go to whoever takes their team deeper into the playoffs. Could be Wilson.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:49 PM   #317
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Just to let you know Luck has 225/224 more passing attempts than Wilson/RGIII. That tells me the Colts lack a running attack (no Morris or Lynch). More passing attempts more INT's. Luck has 4183 yards passing 254 rushing, 26 TD's 21 passing 5 rushing 18 INT's 8 fumbles. No one comes close to RGIII 750 rushing yards just like no one comes close to Luck's passing yards. The award will go to whoever takes their team deeper into the playoffs. Could be Wilson.
Given how close the race is, I think you may be right. Whoever makes the most playoff noise likely will win.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:05 PM   #318
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Tebow could still make the switch to TE and continue to run some wildcat. I don't think he has the speed to be a RB and I don't see him blocking well enough to be a FB.
Tim Tebow should make the switch to H-back. If not that then I'm certain he can be placed on special teams as a gunner.
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Given how close the race is, I think you may be right. Whoever makes the most playoff noise likely will win.
I could be wrong but I think it's a regular season award. Votes may already be taken before the playoffs start.
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How bout the Broncos with 10 straight
They play in the weakest division and havent really beaten anybody. Ten in a row is impressive but i bet they dont make it to the champ game.
Best three teams they played - NE, Hou, and Atl and they lost all three.
They did beat Cincy n Balt but i still think they are overrated.
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Randall Cobb takes advantage of bizarre NFL*rule | Audibles - SI.com


Pretty smart of Cobb on this play and I learned something new about the rules today.
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I could be wrong but I think it's a regular season award. Votes may already be taken before the playoffs start.
no that is correct. ballots will be cast after our game next week. not announced till right before the superbowl though.

SFRedskins. Do you think if Griffin or Wilson threw it 200 more times they would have no more tds and 13 more ints? that's basically what you are saying by emphasizing how many more passes he has thrown. Griffin and Russell both have over 60% completion rates and 6+ yds per attempt, so while they haven't thrown as much, there is no reason to believe they would be as inaccurate as luck has been. I also don't know much about the seahawks receivers but I know that our same group of receivers struggled with other passers.

the thing is I, and most others that I have seen saying luck doesn't deserve it often acknowledge both griffin and wilson do, but luck supporters only grudgingly seem to give credit to the other two, even they don't ever refute the reasons for griffin and wilson are in the running.
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I agree, people don't give much credit to Luck when he deserves it. I think the award will go to whoever advances deeper into the playoffs. Wilson has the better team and chance.
I would not be mad if Luck wins it. He plays in a more pass happy aggressive offense than RG3 or Wilson, therefore he will have more turnovers. For the most part he has played up to the hype.
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I would not be mad if Luck wins it. He plays in a more pass happy aggressive offense than RG3 or Wilson, therefore he will have more turnovers. For the most part he has played up to the hype.
Luck may very well win the award...but I would be surprised if he does seeing as though RG3 has won rookie of the week more than any rookie this season.
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I could be wrong but I think it's a regular season award. Votes may already be taken before the playoffs start.
Ok, cool. That's a fairer way of doing things. Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:04 PM   #326
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no that is correct. ballots will be cast after our game next week. not announced till right before the superbowl though.

SFRedskins. Do you think if Griffin or Wilson threw it 200 more times they would have no more tds and 13 more ints? that's basically what you are saying by emphasizing how many more passes he has thrown. Griffin and Russell both have over 60% completion rates and 6+ yds per attempt, so while they haven't thrown as much, there is no reason to believe they would be as inaccurate as luck has been. I also don't know much about the seahawks receivers but I know that our same group of receivers struggled with other passers.

the thing is I, and most others that I have seen saying luck doesn't deserve it often acknowledge both griffin and wilson do, but luck supporters only grudgingly seem to give credit to the other two, even they don't ever refute the reasons for griffin and wilson are in the running.
They might also throw more TD's. Remember Luck does not have the luxury of a nice running game like the skins/seahawks and 4 rookie receivers. Give credit where credit is due. Skins and seahawks have experienced receivers.
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Luck has the better 1WR than any of those teams though . I agree luck is legit though and he has zero running game so he has to throw that much
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Randall Cobb takes advantage of bizarre NFL*rule | Audibles - SI.com


Pretty smart of Cobb on this play and I learned something new about the rules today.
Wow -- quick thinking on Cobb's part. Love to see smart players take advantage of rules like that.
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Luck has the better 1WR than any of those teams though . I agree luck is legit though and he has zero running game so he has to throw that much
So you don't think Garcon is legit or as good as Wayne? $42 million say he is.
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