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Old 01-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #211
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Re: RG3 cleared to play (update)

It wasn't a injury to the head or spine.

Move along....
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:44 PM   #212
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It wasn't a injury to the head or spine.

Move along....
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:48 PM   #213
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yeah, non story. we already know players hide injuries to stay in games all the time. this is just another example. no one forced him, and he was upset they sat him the next week... so, who cares?
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:59 PM   #214
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yeah, non story. we already know players hide injuries to stay in games all the time. this is just another example. no one forced him, and he was upset they sat him the next week... so, who cares?
I think the big deal is that shanahan said Andrew cleared RG3 to return which apparently wasn't true. Either way, I think you're right, I don't think it's a major issue.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:02 PM   #215
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When I first heard the story this morning, it seemed like a big deal. I guess, Shanny looks like a douche but whatever. Your team's on the clock and you have to make a decision before getting penalized. It was a tough call to make with limited time and basically zero medical opinion. Not to mention said injured player pressing you to go back in the game.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:08 PM   #216
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Re: RG3 cleared to play (update)

it's not a big deal at all.

we see it all the time, a guy gets hurt just enough to delay the game for a moment, he has to come out for the next play, and he goes right back in
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:15 PM   #217
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I think the big deal is that shanahan said Andrew cleared RG3 to return which apparently wasn't true. Either way, I think you're right, I don't think it's a major issue.
Michael Irving on the NFL network set said it best. Shanahan probably told Griffin go see the doctor, Griffin wanting to get back in circled around and then said I'm good to go. No big deal on this, but of course the NFL may think it is.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:18 PM   #218
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Re: RG3 cleared to play (update)

Level 1 (minor) sprain heals at 4 weeks for a (inactive) pro athlete receiving pro therapy. It also usually heals in that time weeks for everyone else as well.

If the Doctor is worried its because the injury is either reported as something less than what it really is and/or because RG3 was back on the field so soon.

Obviously RG3 was able to return for a few plays the day of the injury. I don't think the fact that he's out there after weeks of therapy and pain injections is a indicator that he's anywhere near 100%.

With that said, he seems to be handling/protecting the injury very well, and altho playing on it may delay 100% healing, I think he will be fine as long as he does not take a side impact that compromises the support of the knee brace.

Im sure the Doctor would have liked to see him completely off the knee for 4 weeks and the fact that RG3 is on the field is the cause of his worry.

If you or I sustained the same injury as RG3, Im 100% confident our Doctors would not recommend going out and playing football within the 4 week healing period. But of course our Doctors would not be influenced by a multi trillion dollar industry...

I fully understand the Doctors concern.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:45 PM   #219
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"He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do"...

I basically stopped right there.

The rest is just Andrews not wanting his name tied to this if god forbid he got hurt again. Shanahan probably shouldn't have brought his name into it from the start by saying he cleared him, but what else was he gonna say, that RG3 said he was ok and wanted to go back in so we let him? That would have been a bigger mess.

You probably shouldn't have stopped reading. That part you quoted is in reference to him playing now, not the situation back in the Baltimore game.


Basically, Shanahan said Andrews told him he was cleared to go back into the game, and Andrews said that is not true and that RGIII never allowed them to examine him.

Shanahan needs to be fined big time for this if true, and the fact he threw his high profile team doctor under a bus is pathetic.

Dr. James Andrews says he never cleared Robert Griffin III to go back into game after injury

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Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.

Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.

"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players, and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.

"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."

Yet when asked by reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:

"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'

'Yeah, he can go back in.'

'Robert, go back in.'

"That was it," Shanahan said.

Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild card game at FedEx Field today.
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"I'm the one that shut him down that day, finally," Andrews said. "I've been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He's doing a lot better this week, but he's still recovering and I'm holding my breath because of it.

"He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do, but it's been a trying moment for me, to be honest with you."
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Basically Andrews is just worried about Griff and his knee, which is understanding. Now Mike and him saying he said is just dumb. If Griffin went back in without being looked at then that's on him. Hopefully he's OK and won't hurt himself more, luckily he's passed all the test so far
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:55 PM   #221
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You probably shouldn't have stopped reading. That part you quoted is in reference to him playing now, not the situation back in the Baltimore game.


Basically, Shanahan said Andrews told him he was cleared to go back into the game, and Andrews said that is not true and that RGIII never allowed them to examine him.

Shanahan needs to be fined big time for this if true, and the fact he threw his high profile team doctor under a bus is pathetic.

Dr. James Andrews says he never cleared Robert Griffin III to go back into game after injury
Yeah I got that quite clearly, thanks.

I guess what I'm saying what's the worry now? Odd timing for this story to come out.

Trying to get some pub for his new book perhaps?

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did i miss something? has griff suffered a setback? yap yap yap
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:03 PM   #223
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Yeah I got that quite clearly, thanks.

I guess what I'm saying what's the worry now? Odd timing for this story to come out.

Trying to get some pub for his new book perhaps?

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Probably because nobody has asked him until now? In fact, has there been any interviews or questions with Dr. Andrews until now? If not, that's why this is coming out now. I'd be doing the same thing if I were Dr. Andrews. It's his professional career at stake here, and having some coach claim you ok'd a player to return when you didn't is a definite faux pas.
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Yeah I got that quite clearly, thanks.

I guess what I'm saying what's the worry now? Odd timing for this story to come out.

Trying to get some pub for his new book perhaps?

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yup . . . i was just going to say this . . . his book is being released this weekend as well (according to the talk radio guy in phx anyway) . . . this just gets his name in the press a little more and increases his book sales . . .
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Probably because nobody has asked him until now? In fact, has there been any interviews or questions with Dr. Andrews until now? If not, that's why this is coming out now. I'd be doing the same thing if I were Dr. Andrews. It's his professional career at stake here, and having some coach claim you ok'd a player to return when you didn't is a definite faux pas.
Because nobody asked him? lol really?

C'mon man, if it was that big of a deal to him and his reputation was at stake wouldn't he have came out and issued a statement immediately after it happened??

The whole timing of this just seems a little off to me.
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