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Old 12-31-2012, 12:52 PM   #31
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Re: Black Monday: NFL Coaches and Executives Carousel

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Rex Ryan doesn't/didn't deserve to be fired; it was all Tannebaum and his stupidity to bringing Tebow there. It was a whole organization decision to get Sanchez. I will say though that if Rex and this team doesn't get to 9-7 next year, it'll be the end of Rex.


Side note, Devin Hester is contemplating retirement, via a twitter report of a bears writer
I dunno, Ryan creates alot of dysfunction by constantly talking to the media. The whole offensive side of the ball probably hates him, which doesn't help them win games.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:04 PM   #32
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Pretty sure radio just said Norv & AJ Smith got canned?
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My biggest concern is holding on to Kyle. What's the chances he stays? Im thinking 50/50 at this point.
Danny will pay him and Mike will ask him to stay, they've got a good thing going. He's going nowhere.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:25 PM   #35
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25% of NFL head coaches fired today. A strong (but not perfect) theme, poor qb play. There aren't 8 next great qb's sitting out in FA/draft this year. Wonder what that means...
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:44 PM   #36
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Well they did lose Cutler last year and there was no qualified back up. This year their o-line is just pitiful. Seems like the GM needs to go before Lovie.
I'm pretty sure they fired Jerry Angelo before the season or in-season.
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Was Rivera actually fired?
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:03 PM   #38
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Arizona Cardinals fire Ken Whisenhunt, Rod Graves -- source - ESPN

Can add Whisenhunt and Rod Graves to that list. Coach and GM both out.




I still laugh at some of the guys around here boasting up the likes of Whisenhunt and Schwartz....lol
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Arizona Cardinals fire Ken Whisenhunt, Rod Graves -- source - ESPN

Can add Whisenhunt and Rod Graves to that list. Coach and GM both out.




I still laugh at some of the guys around here boasting up the likes of Whisenhunt and Schwartz....lol
and Cowher and Reid and the waterboy from North Bumf*** High. Pretty much anybody but the guy who built the roster that includes Riley, Crawford, Chester, Wilson, Garcon, Morris, Griffin, Jenkins, Cofield, Bowen, T. Williams and then designed a universally acclaimed offensive system.

Think Jax is wishing they had Shanallen right about now?
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LT, Jason Taylor and Kris Jenkins (first two are potential hall of famers) said that Rex Ryan is a great coach and the reason they went to the jets. I've heard these guys on CBS, Inside the NFL and NFLN all say positive things about Rex. Is Rex absolutely not to blame? No, he deserves some blame. But is Rex the problem? Not at all. Tannebaum is the problem along with Tebow and Sanchez. As soon as those 3 are gone (1 down 2 to go), then we'll see the Jets become better. Think of it like us with McNabb and Haynesworth and Vinny; It takes time, but the Coach is not the blame, its the organization and who runs it. Rex doesn't run the whole Jets, he runs a third of it.
Name your bet - Rex doesn't reach .500 next year and is fired.
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This about sums it up:

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Ryan has no right to be annoyed [that his fate is up in the air]. Let's face it, he did a poor job this season, mismanaging his quarterbacks and losing his team down the stretch. The Jets finished with three straight losses, falling to three terrible teams -- the Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers and Bills. They were outscored in those games, 69-36.

That's brutal. The players say they love Ryan and love playing for him, but they had a strange way of showing it.
New York Jets -- Rex Ryan probably won't be fired by Woody Johnson but needs to change his coaching - ESPN New York
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great news. Kyle made me a believer this year
Yep, I'm on his bandwagon.

If there is in fact a succession plan, I'd rather not wait for it
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:26 PM   #43
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Several firings already from around the NFL

NY Jets: GM Mike Tannenbaum

Cleveland Browns: GM Tom Heckert and HC Pat Shurmur

Philadelphia Eagles: HC Andy Reid

Jacksonville Jaguars: GM Gene Smith

KC Chiefs: HC Romeo Crennel

Carolina Panthers: HC Ron Rivera

Chicago Bears: HC Lovie Smith

Buffalo Bills: HC Chan Gailey
How does Lovie Smith get fired? The Chicago Bears were 10-6 this year. I'm sure Lovie, like Tony Dungy before him, will land in a good situation with an excellent quarterback and win himself a super bowl in a few years.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:35 PM   #44
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How does Lovie Smith get fired? The Chicago Bears were 10-6 this year. I'm sure Lovie, like Tony Dungy before him, will land in a good situation with an excellent quarterback and win himself a super bowl in a few years.
Uh, well, when last year you start 7-3 and miss the playoffs, and then this year you start 7-1 and miss the playoffs, you usually get fired.

I think Lovie Smith will definitely land on his feet again, but collapses like that are never good, especially not in consecutive seasons.
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I'm not comfortable with Lovie Smith getting fired; it doesn't sit well with me.

To be fair the Bears never tried to mislead the public into thinking Lovie was going to be safe this year and they made it pretty clear that his time there had run its course. But for a consistent winner to get fired following a 10-6 season because of the way the tiebreakers fell is pretty shitty, given how excited/emotional the responses and the futures are here to the same 10 wins and 6 losses.

The racial component isn't helping it sit well, even though I thoroughly believe that has nothing to do with it. It just makes a crappy situation (new GM parts ways with largely successful coach he didn't hire) look a lot worse than it is.

In Andy Reid's case, at least the Eagles waited for the team to fall apart on him before they pulled the trigger.
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