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Old 01-29-2013, 12:43 PM   #541
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why would we say yes? Why not just give him more $ and an Assistant HC title to stay here? I cant imagine Shanahan wouldnt want to keep him.
The man obviously doesnt want to be a st coach his entire life, its the rite thing to do.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:44 PM   #542
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Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn

Headline sums it up. An interesting nugget nonetheless.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:49 PM   #543
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Heard Smith's parents live their, and are not in the greatest of health?

Also, can Snyder then fire himself for letting himself hire Cerrato twice?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:18 PM   #544
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Speaking of Snyder, somebody wondered why people still believe Snyder was involved in football operations and my retort would be the following that was posted by LL/HTTR-24/7


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Yep.. That is Snyder for you.. Cold one minute and hot the next. He went from cussing Shanahan out the monday after the bye week "Evaluation" talk to debating a extension 7 games later. The decision to stay with Haslett is a weak point, hope it doesn't cost the team next season.

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Everything with this team is Snyders call at the end of the day.Owners are owners for a reason, they sit back until they don't want to sit back anymore.

So it makes me think that Haslett and other coaches are staying based off of Snyder's decision to keep them on or his reluctance to pay top dollar for alternatives.

Now, he does mention Snyder not being involved in personnel decisions for the most part.

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He is not really involved in too many personnel decisions.. Rare, but when he is upset it's known.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:29 PM   #545
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Apparently Rob Ryan's "I will be out of work for 5 minutes" quote didn't pan out how he thought…. Shmuck

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Old 01-29-2013, 01:45 PM   #546
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Gregg the Bounty Hunter and the Rams would have been a perfect fit for each other. Remember all of the dirty, cheap tactics they used against us this year? Granted they probably only went that far because the replacement refs were allowing them, but that's definitely a bunch of players who would have bought into Williams' "scheme".
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Speaking of Snyder, somebody wondered why people still believe Snyder was involved in football operations and my retort would be the following that was posted by LL/HTTR-24/7








So it makes me think that Haslett and other coaches are staying based off of Snyder's decision to keep them on or his reluctance to pay top dollar for alternatives.

Now, he does mention Snyder not being involved in personnel decisions for the most part.
Like I said

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Old 01-29-2013, 01:46 PM   #548
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Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn

Headline sums it up. An interesting nugget nonetheless.

Hilarious! I love it.


Whatever reason Dan has for firing Vinny is a good one to me...although the axe came down about 10 years late.



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Myers also reported that Jim Fassel was so convinced he was getting the job in early 2008 that “he started to gather his belongings in Phoenix for the move to Washington.” But fans were rebelling, and Zorn wound up with the gig.
Look everyone, it was OUR FAULT that Zorn was hired!

I was for Fassel over Zorn. My choice was Gregg Williams at the time...I have to tell the truth!
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:47 PM   #549
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I mean the truth is Snyder let Cerrato hire Zorn because Cerrato's ego was too fragile to handle an established HC
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Danny smith staying or leaving makes no difference to me. Maybe he can take banks with him too.
I'm in the same position as you. To me he seemed like a middle of the road ST coach. He definitely was not the worst but I have always felt we could be doing a LOT better.

Almost happy he's gone.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:54 PM   #551
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The man obviously doesnt want to be a st coach his entire life, its the rite thing to do.
Im confused. I thought he was going to Pittsburg to be a Special Teams Coach
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I mean the truth is Snyder let Cerrato hire Zorn because Cerrato's ego was too fragile to handle an established HC
That screams bad judgement??? Back to my point earlier.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:21 PM   #553
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I mean the truth is Snyder let Cerrato hire Zorn because Cerrato's ego was too fragile to handle an established HC
I'm sure your going to point to the word "established" but what about Gibbs?
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I'm sure your going to point to the word "established" but what about Gibbs?
Well Gibbs' is unique. But the key difference is there is Cerrato wasn't in charge. After Gibbs left, Snyder put Cerrato in charge of all football operations. Made it his show to run to show that he could be the guy, not the foot soldier.

But while most good managers want a strong team under them, Cerrato didn't, for fear that some would be good enough to eventually make Cerrato irrelevant.
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Well Gibbs' is unique. But the key difference is there is Cerrato wasn't in charge. After Gibbs left, Snyder put Cerrato in charge of all football operations. Made it his show to run to show that he could be the guy, not the foot soldier.

But while most good managers want a strong team under them, Cerrato didn't, for fear that some would be good enough to eventually make Cerrato irrelevant.
Very stupid on Cerratos part. I dont know how he couldnt have had the foresight to realize that if he doesnt have a good coach, and strong personnel people, he wouldnt have a good team, and he'd lose his job.
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