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Old 01-30-2013, 11:07 AM   #586
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Cerrato is not as dumb as people believe when it comes to straight scouting of players, but he's an extremely insecure, petty person. That's ultimately his true downfall
And, in my experience, only someone with similar traits would hire that kind of executive for a senior position. So was he (is he) a reflection of his boss?
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Thanks for the great stuff SS, NCS.
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Cerrato is not as dumb as people believe when it comes to straight scouting of players,

This guy would be our QB right now.





Let that sink in.



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Old 01-30-2013, 12:00 PM   #589
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Montreal needs the slip 'n slide. How do you say "Horny for Zorny" in French?
Per Google Translate: "Chaude pour Zorny"

but you probably were asking rhetorically
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:02 PM   #590
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And, in my experience, only someone with similar traits would hire that kind of executive for a senior position. So was he (is he) a reflection of his boss?
No, not at all
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:29 PM   #591
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No, not at all
Cerrato IMO made alot of mistakes over a decade. Alot of his quotes from that book just lead to more questions. Why do the skins always say things that just make you scratch your head? Hire a friggin lawyer and pretend that your always talking to the Cops.
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OK, thanks, good thing...
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:02 PM   #593
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I just heard 20 minutes ago that Smith is gone..but I can't confirm it yet
Confirmed
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So past the confirmation, I want to know who the new ST coach is!!!
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Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn

Headline sums it up. An interesting nugget nonetheless.
Snyder cracks me up. It's not the GM's job to let him know Zorn isn't qualified. The guy had only been a QB coach. Never even called plays or coordinated an NFL offense. You don't need a GM to tell you that. Snyder's just shifting the blame. It starts with you. Fassell was the more qualified guy, Gregg Williams was the more qualified guy. You hired neither cause you and Vinny wanted a puppet. Hopefully those days are gone forever.
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Cerrato is not as dumb as people believe when it comes to straight scouting of players, but he's an extremely insecure, petty person. That's ultimately his true downfall
Smoot...I'm not so sure about that. He really had a lot of poor draft and free agent picks here. On top of that, he was going to give the Bengals 2 1st rounders for Chad Johnson. Johnson in his prime was a very good wr. But not for that price. Mike Brown saved him from his own stupidity.
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Snyder cracks me up. It's not the GM's job to let him know Zorn isn't qualified. The guy had only been a QB coach. Never even called plays or coordinated an NFL offense. You don't need a GM to tell you that. Snyder's just shifting the blame. It starts with you. Fassell was the more qualified guy, Gregg Williams was the more qualified guy. You hired neither cause you and Vinny wanted a puppet. Hopefully those days are gone forever.
If your GM hires the wrong guy, I'd say that's ultimately on the GM. Should Snyder have over ruled him on hiring Zorn? I thought we want Snyder out of making decisions like that?
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If your GM hires the wrong guy, I'd say that's ultimately on the GM. Should Snyder have over ruled him on hiring Zorn? I thought we want Snyder out of making decisions like that?
I agree its on the GM, its not his job to over rule the GM on a coaching hire. However, he rehired Vinny, which for me leads to more questions. Whats really different here, except for personnel decisions. Is the game day experience better? The field? Customer Service? Are they run top to bottom like a first class organization? A friend of mine used to valet cars, he remembers Snyder...
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Smoot...I'm not so sure about that. He really had a lot of poor draft and free agent picks here. On top of that, he was going to give the Bengals 2 1st rounders for Chad Johnson. Johnson in his prime was a very good wr. But not for that price. Mike Brown saved him from his own stupidity.
I probably didn't explain it quite right...but honestly kind of tired of talking about him
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I agree its on the GM, its not his job to over rule the GM on a coaching hire. However, he rehired Vinny, which for me leads to more questions. Whats really different here, except for personnel decisions. Is the game day experience better? The field? Customer Service? Are they run top to bottom like a first class organization? A friend of mine used to valet cars, he remembers Snyder...
Keeping Vinny around for all those years is definitely on Snyder, no doubt.

Allen seems to be the perfect buffer between Snyder the team, and I think Allen has done a great job in many of the off the field aspects of improving relations with alumni and overall community outreach. Hope he stays around a long time.
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