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Old 01-01-2013, 10:31 PM   #106
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Saban was an assistant coach for Belichick in Cleveland. Belichick had quite the coaching staff and personnel in Cleveland, the move to Baltimore screwed everything for Belichick. He had Saban, Schwartz, Mangini, Ferentz, Michael Lombardi, Ozzie Newsome, Pioli, Demitroff, Phil Savage, Mike Tannenbaum. That is impressive, 6 GM's, 3 NFL coaches (4 if you count Belichick), 2 college coaches. Belichick was surrounded with lots of brain power.

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Really don't see Saban in Cleveland. Chip Kelly is being pretty heavily pursued by Philly and Cleveland. I think he likes the idea of San Diego. If I was Carolina, I'd call him.

Reid in Arizona, does that mean he'll be the GM there too?
I don't think Reid would work well as the GM and HC but then again he's a damn good football guy so who knows.
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I don't think Reid would work well as the GM and HC but then again he's a damn good football guy so who knows.
I thought he was basically in charge of all football operations until 2 or 3 seasons ago. There was Heckert but I always thought and heard that the person with the final say was Reid, basically making him in charge of everything.
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Really don't see Saban in Cleveland. Chip Kelly is being pretty heavily pursued by Philly and Cleveland. I think he likes the idea of San Diego. If I was Carolina, I'd call him.
I think anyone would be crazy to leave Alabama for Cleveland and inherit their mess. Kelly seems like the kind of coach who would want to be in charge of all personel and football operations.
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I thought he was basically in charge of all football operations until 2 or 3 seasons ago. There was Heckert but I always thought and heard that the person with the final say was Reid, basically making him in charge of everything.
That could be right, if so then yes he could be GM and HC. Arizona isn't as bad off as they looked, the offense is bad but in a couple seasons Reid could turn that around.
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I think anyone would be crazy to leave Alabama for Cleveland and inherit their mess. Kelly seems like the kind of coach who would want to be in charge of all personel and football operations.
Cleveland is not a mess they have many really good young players, a few more pieces and they are ready to contend. The Jets are a mess.
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Browns are better off than Buffalo and SD IMO.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:56 PM   #113
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Cleveland is not a mess they have many really good young players, a few more pieces and they are ready to contend. The Jets are a mess.
I will agree with that. I said that statement thinking of the Cleveland organization as a whole throughout the years instead of just looking at the team and its potential. Good young defense, good young oline. Weeden to me does not seem comfortable playing in the NFL though, they seem to missing a QB and an offensive playmaker. I take back the earlier statement.
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Reid in Arizona, does that mean he'll be the GM there too?

One would assume he'd take that role on as well.



Also, what's the deal with the Chiefs?

Clark Hunt, Kansas City Chiefs CEO, taking on bigger role - ESPN


According to this, Hunt is stepping into the front to be a liaison between the head coach and GM (Pioli). The coach will be reporting directly to him and not to the GM.

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"The GM and coach won't always have the same perspective," Hunt said. "But they found a way to get to common ground and make decisions, and that will really be my role, finding the right path for the Chiefs and helping the guys make decisions together."
I get a sense that there is a lot of friction between Pioli and the coaches (Crennel/Haley), and that it's come to the point that he's going to be the in between guy now to eliminate the issues. Used the prior relationship between Marty and Peterson to highlight this.

Am I reading more into this than what's there?
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I think anyone would be crazy to leave Alabama for Cleveland and inherit their mess. Kelly seems like the kind of coach who would want to be in charge of all personel and football operations.
Saban is believed to only be interested in a warm weather locale

Kelly has said there is one person he has on mind who would be his GM. No idea who that is though, and it would seem that person would just be a lackey
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:27 PM   #116
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I think Hunt is trying to force Pioli to resign. Maybe it's a money thing why he won't fire him?

I heard from some pretty reliable people that after Sunday's game Hubt asked Manning why he didn't consider the Chiefs. And Manning supposedly told him he wanted no part of an organization where Pioli was in charge. I don't know why he said that, but that's pretty damning. Manning's rejection is allegedly a big reason the Titans let Mike Reinfeldt go as well
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and computer refs

but seriously, why wouldn't the line judge have a wristwatch that's only function is to be synced with the play clock, at 0 it flashes red, that way he's not looking away from the ball.

There are solutions to some issues.
Or something like a pager that vibrates or beeps, so the ref doesn't have to look down. Also, I don't know how something like that doesn't get reviewed. I mean, they review a shot if they believe the shot clock has expired.
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I heard from some pretty reliable people that after Sunday's game Hubt asked Manning why he didn't consider the Chiefs. And Manning supposedly told him he wanted no part of an organization where Pioli was in charge. I don't know why he said that, but that's pretty damning. Manning's rejection is allegedly a big reason the Titans let Mike Reinfeldt go as well

Not sure if I had posted this earlier last year, but hearing about this theatrics in this article, I can see why Manning said what he said.

Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern - KansasCity.com


I wouldn't work for the guy either. If people haven't read the article above, I suggest you all do so. Amazing piece and a incredible insight behind the scenes.


Thanks for the scoop Smoot!
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:14 AM   #119
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Dirk Koetter reportedly staying on as Falcons OC. So cross him off the HC list
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And Mort reporting Chiefs to interview Andy Reid. I don't see him there though
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