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Old 01-03-2013, 12:22 PM   #16
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

I think Has will have a good time figuring it out........
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:26 PM   #17
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

I think Osi and Freeney will be elsewhere next season.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:29 PM   #18
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Nothing wrong with having a starter and a really good back up. As Matty said, I don't think Jackson has played himself into a starter position here, Orakpo is clearly the better player. I think our team will be in a better position if we have both player on the roster.
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Our pass rush has been noticeably less since we lost Rak. As great as Rob Jackson is off of the bench, he is no real substitute as a full-time starter. I say we keep him for depth if we can.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #20
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

IMO, I hope he stays and they both see significant playing time next year. I want to see Orakpo return to form ... if not, hello Jackson in a bigger role than Rak. Point blank.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:10 PM   #21
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Why, when we have solid depth, does the question become "Do we need xxx?" Granted there are salary cap concerns, and if Jackson pushes for an unworkable deal, we may have to let him go, but within the constraints that are the modern salary cap, we should keep both of them, and be glad that we are producing solid talent, with good attitudes.
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Why, when we have solid depth, does the question become "Do we need xxx?" Granted there are salary cap concerns, and if Jackson pushes for an unworkable deal, we may have to let him go, but within the constraints that are the modern salary cap, we should keep both of them, and be glad that we are producing solid talent, with good attitudes.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:16 PM   #23
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

What about Lorenzo? Do you keep him too?
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Orakpo has not been the same sense he did those bad Geico comercials.
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What about Lorenzo? Do you keep him too?
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What about Lorenzo? Do you keep him too?
Yes. All around team guy and very versatile... someone mentioned Jackson being like a Mike Vrabel type i think earlier in the thread... but i think 'Zo is more comparable and i think it's essential we keep him. For ST's and depth. He's a redskin as long as we keep him around.
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You can't just say the defense has raised it's game in vacuum. Rob Jackson is a big part of that reason. You can't dismiss that. And when Orakpo was starting the Redskins were abysmal in the turnover category.

Are we conflating better athlete with better football player?
Are we basing this on the 1 1/3 games that we actually saw Orakpo on the field this season? If so, I have to point out how small of a sample size that is. If not, I feel like it's a little ridiculous to compare any other year to this one given the way winning seems to have inspired this team; the defense in particular.

I think this team really needs to keep as much talent as it possibly can on the defensive side of the ball, particularly when you consider how bad they were to start the season. Having depth should be a luxury. I'm glad Jackson stepped in and made some plays, but I don't think he's better than Brian Orakpo and I wouldn't cut or trade Orakpo in order to keep him. Also, I think creating a hole behind Jackson is a bad idea. I like Wilson and Alexander as situational players, but I think banking on Jackson and thinking he'll never get hurt would be a mistake. For me, if you get rid of Orakpo, you also need a new guy to back up Jackson.

As happy as I've been with Jackson's impact, which surprised me, I still think Orakpo comes back and is the starter on this defense. If the front office decides Jackson is the better player, I'll be very surprised.
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

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What about Lorenzo? Do you keep him too?
no room for him please know that i am kidding
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

I think Lorenzo and Jackson both get deals in the 2MM/year range for 2013, with significant increases in 2014 when we have cap room again. We're gonna have to work hard to meet the cap minimum in 2014.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:36 PM   #30
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Redskins will most likely have to spend more money than they half in order to keep both.I would choose Orakpo but redskins will most likely lose Jackson
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