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Old 01-03-2013, 06:13 PM   #76
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

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We won the NFC East with out Orakpo's pass rush pressure. How critical is that pressure?
We'd still be better off with his pass rushing abilities.

We also won without Fred Davis and a number of key guys. Are they any less valuable going forward?
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:18 PM   #77
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

cut their asses if they haven't been a part of this 7 game win streak, that's how i feel about it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:24 PM   #78
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We'd still be better off with his pass rushing abilities.

We also won without Fred Davis and a number of key guys. Are they any less valuable going forward?
Of course not. I am not saying cut them.
What I am fearful of is next season undervaluing guys that did the grunt work that might not have the sexy stats attached to their name.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:29 PM   #79
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Of course not. I am not saying cut them.
What I am fearful of is next season undervaluing guys that did the grunt work that might not have the sexy stats attached to their name.
I didn't say cut them either. Just saying we'd be better off with them even though we did manage to have success without them.

I think Jackson will be a priority to keep around with Rak coming back off an injury. He's a RFA, so we'll be able to match any offers if he does indeed hit the market.

I love what he's done this year, he's made some plays that I don't think Rak would make, and I think you could also say that Rak has shown he's able to make plays that Jackson probably can't.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:32 PM   #80
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

I keep hearing mixed info on whether he's restricted or not, haven't gotten a 100% answer yet

So you have money to keep either Rob Jackson or D. Hall, you go with...
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:36 PM   #81
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I didn't say cut them either. Just saying we'd be better off with them even though we did manage to have success without them.

I think Jackson will be a priority to keep around with Rak coming back off an injury. He's a RFA, so we'll be able to match any offers if he does indeed hit the market.

I love what he's done this year, he's made some plays that I don't think Rak would make, and I think you could also say that Rak has shown he's able to make plays that Jackson probably can't.
Agreed. They have completely different styles and talent; and one is not better then the other, just different. The same can be said for Jarvis Jenkins and Carricker; Fred Davis and Logan Paulsen. Nex season they should all share playing time, not have one dominate the playing time over another.
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I keep hearing mixed info on whether he's restricted or not, haven't gotten a 100% answer yet

So you have money to keep either Rob Jackson or D. Hall, you go with...
Easy, Rob Jackson! Who needs D Hall when we got Domonique Johnson?!

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Old 01-03-2013, 06:40 PM   #83
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I keep hearing mixed info on whether he's restricted or not, haven't gotten a 100% answer yet

So you have money to keep either Rob Jackson or D. Hall, you go with...
I'm curious to know what he is as well, I know it's his 4th year in the league but I'm not sure whether the uncapped year set him back a year in terms of RFA/UFA status.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:46 PM   #84
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I keep hearing mixed info on whether he's restricted or not, haven't gotten a 100% answer yet

So you have money to keep either Rob Jackson or D. Hall, you go with...
Trent Williams cap number goes down from $13million this season to $6.6Million next season. That will create cap space enough to keep both if you wanted to.
Cutting Jamaal Brown will free up another $1M.
I really like DHall and I want to keep him, but not at $8.3M cap number next year. Plus his release fee is a tiny $300K.
He is the prime candidate to renegotiate a new deal so we can free up some more cap space.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:54 PM   #85
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Orakpo doesn't have as many interceptions because coaches recognize his talents as a pass rusher are so significant that he's asked to rush the passer more often than Jackson is.

Jackson is a very valuable depth player, not much more. I'd let him walk if he gets offered a big deal. Orakpo is a pass rushing threat, not many players like that out there.
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I keep hearing mixed info on whether he's restricted or not, haven't gotten a 100% answer yet

So you have money to keep either Rob Jackson or D. Hall, you go with...

Rob Jackson. D. Hall is not worth what his cap number will be next near. Not even by a long shot.
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Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

i think you've got to scrap both of them in order to retain jammal brown
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i think you've got to scrap both of them in order to retain jammal brown
Brown is essential to the pistol play and the read-option formation.
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Brown is essential to the pistol play and the read-option formation.


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If a pass rush and sacks are so "critical" (using your words), why is that of the top 13 teams that led the NFL in sacks in 2012 over half (eight) of them did not even make the playoffs?
Sack totals are not critical, but pressuring the quarterback is. The Redskins have been terrible at generating pressure with less than five defenders since Orakpo went down. If they could generate pressure with less defenders, the overall performance of the defense would improve.
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