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Old 01-07-2013, 08:51 PM   #316
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Re: As long as RGIII is 100% for 2013 training camp...

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Well let me ask this ,how many times can you rebuild a knee before .....it affects play?Already been done in College and now seems like it will be done after 1 year in the NFL,I don't know so I'm asking,how much more can his knee take?
The option offense has nothing to do with rg3 getting hurt. Only fools like Herm Edwards try to connect the two because they are stupid and lazy.

That said, you do have a good point about repeated knee injuries... They take a toll. Rg3s knee will always be more susceptible to injury and I highly doubt it ever feels "good" again.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:53 PM   #317
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I think what herm was trying to say is do u want Griffin to play 10 yrs or 5 yrs? Meaning he believes griff better stop running if he wants to play long and honestly I kinda agree with him, he's played 1 season and we are already terrified that he has a torn acl
but the acl wasn't from the running, if anything its due to his fearlessness. that's what I hope can be brought to the NFL level. He can run, but slide or get out of bounds, no more hurdling or cutting back in at the last second and twisting that knee. Even hobbling he was able to get out of bounds in this game.

I don't want to take away his athletic threat but I want him to protect himself and his team. I am reminded of topgun when Iceman at first doesn't accept Maverick because although Mav is dangerous to the enemy its a reckless danger, once Mav controls it, he is a more dangerous pilot.

Likewise Griffin running right now is a danger to our opponent and to himself, IF Griff learns to protect himself the threat to our opponent will be multiplied tremendously.
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Not only that but the team would be fined for false disclosure in regards to the injury.


Interesting looking back in regards to Shanahan's faux pas on his press conference after the Baltimore game.


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If Shanahan knew and falsely disclosed information etc it isn't just a fine we're talking Sean Payton like punishments. I hope this isn't true...you don't need Roger Gooddell having to take extreme measures on this like he did with concussions.
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but the acl wasn't from the running, if anything its due to his fearlessness. that's what I hope can be brought to the NFL level. He can run, but slide or get out of bounds, no more hurdling or cutting back in at the last second and twisting that knee. Even hobbling he was able to get out of bounds in this game.

I don't want to take away his athletic threat but I want him to protect himself and his team. I am reminded of topgun when Iceman at first doesn't accept Maverick because although Mav is dangerous to the enemy its a reckless danger, once Mav controls it, he is a more dangerous pilot.

Likewise Griffin running right now is a danger to our opponent and to himself, IF Griff learns to protect himself the threat to our opponent will be multiplied tremendously.
What if he hurt that ACL against Baltimore? I agree about him scaring the defense but I'd rather have him for a Long time then just a couple good years. Let's just hope he'll be ready for 2013 . He's literally already become my favorite player to watch even if I wasn't a skins fan
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If Shanahan knew and falsely disclosed information etc it isn't just a fine we're talking Sean Payton like punishments. I hope this isn't true...you don't need Roger Gooddell having to take extreme measures on this like he did with concussions.
Yep, could even lose our 2nd rd pick next year. Speculation of course but if the stories are true there will be a pretty significant punishment.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:03 PM   #321
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We could use another weapon for Griff (healthy).. That game proved that. Dudes fighting to stay on the field and WRs are dropping passes sure the throws weren't the best but someone's gotta step up.

And without a doubt we need help over the top. Madieu wasn't the worst we could do at times he made plays especially against the Viks his old team stands out. But we need help there.

Twas a solid season though and im proud of this roster.
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Yep, could even lose our 2nd rd pick next year. Speculation of course but if the stories are true there will be a pretty significant punishment.
Or Dan fires him to avoid punishment.....again lets hope its not true....good things are happening here and we don't need to be set back
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They didn't falsely discole injury info... If he tore the ACL beyond a sprain we would have knew it. Why would anybody wish that that was the case I don't want negative media and controversy any further than its gone. I just want a new season with a fresh start after a solid season ended in such ill fashion.
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@HTTR24_7: WOW.. So @kevinandrock are reporting RGIII had a sprained ACL and LCL following the Ngata hit..

@HTTR24_7: Also saying the plan was for the team to announce the acl injury following the season, claiming it was a result of playing on the lcl.
Shit I could have told you after that hit, when it was reported that it was a grade 1 you knew knew something was fishy. The game against Philly and Dallas you could see it was worse than it was reported. Now my question is did the knee brace help at all? It there was no tears shouldn't the knee brace have prevented it?
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Yeah I seen it. It buckled because the only support the already torn ligaments had was the brace. Just give it time and all will come out in the media eventually. That knee was tore against the Ravens. I guarantee it!

Holy ****. 44 may have been right considering this new report out about the ACL strain (tear) that occurred in the Baltimore game.
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Shit I could have told you after that hit, when it was reported that it was a grade 1 you knew knew something was fishy. The game against Philly and Dallas you could see it was worse than it was reported. Now my question is did the knee brace help at all? It there was no tears shouldn't the knee brace have prevented it?

Knee brace will limit how the leg can turn, but it isn't going to be full proof or prevent a tear.


Also, it may put a piece in the puzzle to why Shanny left the kid in the game.



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@PeachOmania IF any of that is accurate then thats probably why Shanny left him in these games thinking the damage was already done.



All speculation of course and dependent on this new info being true.
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I'm not convinced on the Kevin and Rock info
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What if he hurt that ACL against Baltimore? I agree about him scaring the defense but I'd rather have him for a Long time then just a couple good years. Let's just hope he'll be ready for 2013 . He's literally already become my favorite player to watch even if I wasn't a skins fan
even against baltimore, griffin had the chance to get out of bounds but his fearlessness led him back in where Ngata lowered the hit.

I think he was learning, but depending on the resuts tomorrow and going forward, he clearly didn't learn fast enough.
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I'm not convinced on the Kevin and Rock info
Have u heard anything about the Visit to Florida yet? Or any other news good or bad?
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All these rumors and speculation are driving me nuts. I think I will just wait to see what is really going on in the next week or so. If true that they didn't disclose the injury and let him play knowing that he could do more damage then this team and organization deserves what ever punishment and injury consequences that are coming their way.
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